You can keep lying to yourself, but this is a public forum. We all can see you said that the Russian government agrees that they kidnap Ukrainian children and you haven’t been able to back that with a source.
Russia’s longstanding practice of removing Ukrainian children from occupied territories and transferring them to special camps or for adoption by Russian families expanded exponentially with its 2022 invasion. Scholars with the Yale Humanitarian Research Lab (YHRL) found that “[m]ore than 19,000 children from Ukraine have been deported to Russia”, adding that the actual number is likely much higher. As they document, children are being held at least 210 locations across Russia, with at least 130 of those locations conducting “re-education activities.” They also found that Ukrainian children have been subjected to coerced adoption and fostering by Russian families, adding that these programs “appear engaged in systematic re-education efforts that expose children from Ukraine to Russia-centric academic, cultural, patriotic, and/or military education.”
Far from concealing these operations, Russian officials paraded the children on television as proof of their success in rescuing Ukrainian orphans. However, it is unclear how many of the transferred children are orphans or, if so, lack an extended family capable of caring for them in Ukraine. And in May 2022, President Putin issued a decreeexpediting the process of denationalization, stripping Ukrainian children of citizenship documents and bestowing Russian Federation citizenship, accelerating their adoption by Russian families, and rendering them subject to conscription by the Russian military.
Far from concealing these operations, Russian officials paraded the children on television as proof of their success in rescuing Ukrainian orphans.
That’s someone else making the claim, not a source, the link there redirects to an AP news article. You just linked me to someone else saying “the Russians admit to it”, that’s not sourcing.
in May 2022, President Putin issued a decreeexpediting the process of denationalization, stripping Ukrainian children of citizenship documents and bestowing Russian Federation citizenship
Russia now de-facto controls large portions of former Ukraine. The decree specifically applies to orphans and children without parental care. Evidently, orphans should not be left in a warzone, and evidently, since Russia claims those regions of Ukraine it controls, it wants to give Russian nationality to said orphans.
The whole “Russia kidnaps children” thing falls apart entirely when you apply the smallest bit of brainpower: are there children in a warzone? The response is no, there are no children to kidnap in a warzone.
Israel doesn’t give Palestinian children Israeli nationality, it exterminates them at worst or keeps them in apartheid at best. Incredible false equivalency while still failing to support your original claim.
I brought Russian sourcing because you claimed Russian officials admit to said kidnapping,
Israeli politicians routinely brag about the Palestinian genocide BTW.
You won’t find official documents in Russia discussing the kidnapping of children, you’re just making shit up. You can argue it happens, and you will do so sourcing ultimately with Ukrainian government information as does the Yale thing you quoted, but you can’t argue Russian authorities have made official declarations involving the scale which is claimed by the Ukrainian government (and not verified by independent journalistic reporting).
You can keep lying to yourself, but this is a public forum. We all can see you said that the Russian government agrees that they kidnap Ukrainian children and you haven’t been able to back that with a source.
Russia’s longstanding practice of removing Ukrainian children from occupied territories and transferring them to special camps or for adoption by Russian families expanded exponentially with its 2022 invasion. Scholars with the Yale Humanitarian Research Lab (YHRL) found that “[m]ore than 19,000 children from Ukraine have been deported to Russia”, adding that the actual number is likely much higher. As they document, children are being held at least 210 locations across Russia, with at least 130 of those locations conducting “re-education activities.” They also found that Ukrainian children have been subjected to coerced adoption and fostering by Russian families, adding that these programs “appear engaged in systematic re-education efforts that expose children from Ukraine to Russia-centric academic, cultural, patriotic, and/or military education.”
Far from concealing these operations, Russian officials paraded the children on television as proof of their success in rescuing Ukrainian orphans. However, it is unclear how many of the transferred children are orphans or, if so, lack an extended family capable of caring for them in Ukraine. And in May 2022, President Putin issued a decreeexpediting the process of denationalization, stripping Ukrainian children of citizenship documents and bestowing Russian Federation citizenship, accelerating their adoption by Russian families, and rendering them subject to conscription by the Russian military.
That’s someone else making the claim, not a source, the link there redirects to an AP news article. You just linked me to someone else saying “the Russians admit to it”, that’s not sourcing.
Russia now de-facto controls large portions of former Ukraine. The decree specifically applies to orphans and children without parental care. Evidently, orphans should not be left in a warzone, and evidently, since Russia claims those regions of Ukraine it controls, it wants to give Russian nationality to said orphans.
The whole “Russia kidnaps children” thing falls apart entirely when you apply the smallest bit of brainpower: are there children in a warzone? The response is no, there are no children to kidnap in a warzone.
Israel de facto controls large portions of Palestine but I hope you’re not going to excuse their actions too.
Israel doesn’t give Palestinian children Israeli nationality, it exterminates them at worst or keeps them in apartheid at best. Incredible false equivalency while still failing to support your original claim.
I’m supporting my claim just fine but we’re so apart in views that you’ll never see a source of mine as being good enough for you.
Agreed, because all sources you have are “Western newspaper claims that this has appeared on Russian TV” without further sourcing.
And yours are Russian sources which to me is like asking Israeli officials about the Palestine genocide.
Or course they will have excuses and explanations.
I brought Russian sourcing because you claimed Russian officials admit to said kidnapping,
Israeli politicians routinely brag about the Palestinian genocide BTW.
You won’t find official documents in Russia discussing the kidnapping of children, you’re just making shit up. You can argue it happens, and you will do so sourcing ultimately with Ukrainian government information as does the Yale thing you quoted, but you can’t argue Russian authorities have made official declarations involving the scale which is claimed by the Ukrainian government (and not verified by independent journalistic reporting).