west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
BINGO
Psssh here’s a fun read or two:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/roman-catholic-church/executive-summary.html
https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/7085101
pssst
https://www.vatican.va/resources/index_en.htm
Ok I tried to read some of those but have a hard time finding anything of substance tbh
you will never find what you do not want to find
yes, the ‘church’ that was burning heretics opposed to fealty to the king of rome then produced a schism that also burned heretics
proof
plenty of christians did not have interest in swearing fealty to the king of rome, and were killed for it, long before there was the protestant schism. you ask for proof, i point to your own ‘church’'s history
articles, links, etc
this is your religions history, you really need links??
pre-schism imperial church violence:
donatists: north african christians who refused communion with bishops who had collaborated with roman persecution. augustine developed the theological justification for using imperial force against them. precursor to the inquisition
arians: christians who held that christ was subordinate to the father. it was a position enforced by some emperors and violently suppressed by others depending on who was in power. the nicene settlement was imposed by imperial authority, not theological consensus
paul of constantinople: patriarch of constantinople, exiled multiple times for refusing to accept the arian settlement imposed by emperor constantius. eventually strangled on imperial orders
eusebius of samosata: bishop who refused the imperial arian settlement, stoned to death by an arian woman while in exile
martin of tours: refused communion with bishops who supported the imperial execution of priscillian, arguing the state had no business executing heretics
bogomils: balkan christian movement rejecting church hierarchy, sacraments and material wealth. persecuted by both byzantine and later catholic authorities, their suppression in bosnia was a direct precursor to the albigensian crusade
violence against christian heretics and orthodox:
waldensians
albigensian crusade/cathars
sack of constantinople
the inquisition
spiritual franciscans
jan hus/hussites
violence against muslims and jews:
the crusades
rhineland massacres
spanish inquisition
reconquista
colonial and indigenous violence:
inter caetera/colonial americas
california missions
residential schools
violence against women and the poor:
witch trials
magdalene laundries
nazi collaboration:
ustaše
reichskonkordat
ratlines
pius xii and the holocaust
most of the Arian Controversy deaths were because of Arianists, who are not Catholics
Arianism is not a belief of the church, what re you trying to convey?
in support of the point i made here
the conflation of imperial and spiritual authority that became catholic doctrine was already killing christians who resisted it prior to being established
they then continued that practice once they secured imperial power, as well as exterminating plenty of other people who got in their way
hence why i said calling other people genocidal is an interesting accusation from a worshiper of the king of rome
the king of rome?
The Vatican is not an empire, nor does it plan to expand anytime in the future as far as I know.
Arianism was a heresy indeed, and it is no longer being practiced today
and it was the Arians that were persecuting the non-arians
Bruh it’s the catholics who raped the kids, and you really think catholics didn’t burn protestants? They were a lot more keen on it so just stfu already.
Generalization fallacy here and an Ad Hominem there.
and PROOF for your statements please.
and Catholicism advocates the love of ALL humans, bbqing them is not love.
honestly I’m not even sure what you’re trying to say here because who did you think killed those protestant martyrs of the church of england?
Henry VIII (1509–1547) and Mary I (1553–1558)
Yeah the protestant and the catholic.
all the monarchs are apart of the Church of England which is not catholic
You might wanna read up on that history there… Henry VIII created the church of england, yes. Mary very much was a catholic my friend.
In case you want to read a really good story set in exactly that time with exactly this situation at heart is Column Of Fire by Ken Follet, a novel in a series about a fictional English town throughout different times.
even if she was, you cant blame the entire church for the actions of a SINGLE catholic