• aski3252@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    It’s very likely that they don’t learn what they aren’t thaught. You don’t teach anything if there is no contact, and moments like this are opportunities for contact.

    Yesyes, I get it, it’s not your job to teach them. The issue is though that nobody else will, except of course propagandists on the right who are happy to teach them.

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      1 day ago

      Here’s the thing though the entire internet is available for them to learn things themselves. It shouldn’t be our job to teach them anything.

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        19 hours ago

        I 100% agree. And no, it shouldn’t be our job. But unfortunately, it kinda is.

        I mostly grew up in a right wing/conservative environment. The only reason why I’m not a right winger is because I always had a curiosity for different ideas and ways of thinking and wanted to actually understand people’s views.

        Eventually, as frustrating as it was, I had to come to terms that many people don’t share that curiosity. Most people are focused on other things and only seem to kind of adopt concepts they are told, often without really thinking about it.

        And more often than not, it’s right wingers telling them stuff and it’s right wing stuff that sticks, as right wing stuff is quite simple and easily digestable (simple concepts, clear enemy, simple problems and simple solutions). However, oftentimes, it does not stick very hard and the only reason why it sticks is because they are simply never challenged. In a lot of cases, it slowly falls apart if you challenge them, as long as you don’t give them an easy excuse to dismiss you.

        But unfortunately, this is typically not a fast process. So yeah, it is very frustrating, especially because people have access to all the knowledge they need.

        But the hard reality is that chances are they will sooner go down a crazy right wing conspiracy rabit whole. In order for them to move towards the left just by themselves, they would need to throw their entire understanding of virtually everything they know out the window, and by that point, the right is more comfortable because you can just build your world however you want.

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        24 hours ago

        If we want the world to be a better place than it absolutely is our job. Conservatives see it as a job to brainwash and create propaganda.

        We should see it as a job to bring these people back from the edge, and to reintegrate them with society. Ignoring them, and blaming them, will continue to make the problem worse.

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          23 hours ago

          When an entire segment of the population that are maga nutso Christian nationalist want me to not even exist, no it’s not my job. It’s not my job at all to educate fully formed adult humans who have the breath of all information of the entire world at their fingertips but they refuse to expand their minds and use it.

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            22 hours ago

            The cycle will continue then, and nothing will ever get better. You can’t hope for things to get better without also putting the work forward to make those changes.

            You want them to think you should exist? Then emotionally appeal to them and remind them that you’re a person. This only really works on the ones you know anyways, but if no one ever steps up to teach them, then you can’t expect them to ever change.