This one is broad, but it can be about anything from a fandom or historically or just in general.
The Montreal Screwjob in the WWF. This is the most over-covered subject if you’re a wrestling fan. Story goes, Bret Hart was to face Shawn Michaels in the 1997 Survivor Series in Montreal Canada. Tensions were high leading up to the match and Vince McMahon was afraid Bret was going to take the championship belt to WCW if he retained. So, about several minutes into the match, Shawn Michaels was about to lock in the sharpshooter on Bret when the bell prematurely rang, initiated by Vince and called by Earl Hebner, refereeing the match. There was a flurry of confusion at first but it came clear as day to everyone that Bret was screwed right then and there.
And for 29 years since, there had been constant interviews, constant coverage, wrestling content creators bringing it up a lot and treating it like there’s one bit of information left out. By this point, it’s been so covered, that we have most of the pieces. Shawn and HHH themselves knew it was a screwjob (it took Shawn years to admit it, HHH is still adamant about it for some reason) and WWE has their own revisionist telling about what happened and the aftermath.
At this point, we get it. For a sport that relies on choreographed moves and fluffed up gimmicks, it was a huge deal that just went on and on.
The terminally online debate-me-bro brand of atheism.
It’s always been curious to me that you can define yourself by something that your not. I’m also vexed why an atheist would proselytize. They’re not saving souls or capturing 10%. What’s the motivation? And please don’t say it’s because atheists are better people. Because all the famous “new” atheists were regular cast members on Epstein Island and the whole movement had deep ties to the alt-right and Gamergate.
I’m not saying they’re wrong, I’m saying they’re obnoxious, belligerent, and annoying. To be clear, I’m atheist. That’s half the problem. These MFers are making me look bad.
Not a fan of fedora atheism either, but imo when atheists proselytize it’s because organized religion is harmful and they’re trying to limit/remove its power
That’s what they always claim, but 9 outta 10 times I see an atheist on this website it’s because someone said “oh God, that’s crazy” and they had to reply with “🤓😏 more like oh Flying Spaghetti Monster that’s crazy. Haha! Get it? Cuz God doesn’t exist!!?”
I mean trying to make religious phrases awkward and less used kinda is a way to limit/remove organized religion’s power lol. We normalize it with our language, and if we stopped I think it would make it harder for religious talk to come across as serious. Not saying it’s not annoying - I personally find it a little cringe to police someone else’s language like that even if I do it to myself - but I see the idea behind what they’re doing
Your argument would hold more water if organized religions encouraged people to say things like “oh my God”. Saying those phrases or otherwise taking the Lord’s name in vain is generally frowned upon, at least in most western religions (no idea if this taboo exists for, say, Hinduism).
You’re right in saying we don’t think about it when using it in everyday language. Similarly, most westerners aren’t thinking they’re celebrating the birth of Jesus when they are doing their Christmas shopping; obviously the holiday is inherently religious, but the only groups that generally view it as strictly a Christian holiday are devout followers of another faith that forbids them from celebrating, and obnoxious atheists.
When you encourage people to stop saying “oh my God”, you aren’t sticking it to organized religion in any way; you’re literally policing people to do the same thing they want them to do.
Or maybe what they claim is what they actually mean and they just think you’re annoying so don’t bother investing in having a conversation with you about it?
because they are people. and people want other people to agree with them to validate them. it feels good.
that’s just how human beings are wired. human beings generally, don’t enjoy being around people who don’t agree with and validate them, they find that painful.
this is why people love echo chambers where they rant to each other about how anyone else who doesn’t believe what they believe is stupid and bad, and they are very smart and good.
and really, that’s how our ‘communities’ work fundamentally as well. you get together with like-minded people, you create a shared belief system, and you shit on everyone else who doesn’t share in that belief system as a bad and wrong as a social bonding exercise.
also why they tend to fly into a rage when confronted with people who are different than them or say things they don’t agree with, because they find that painful and they want to punish you for you making them feel bad.