I’m not on Lemmy to convince Russians about what opinion they should hold tho. I’m stating an opinion about the matter on a public forum not exclusively for Russians.
We shouldn’t delude ourselves on the outside that this is a good person, even if he is an improvement on the current leadership. That is my point, because you see this time and time again, to the point that the outside world starts to essentially simp for the slightly less shit person.
Okay let me try it differently. Imagine a perfect clone of Navalny gained full power in your country. You know he is a right wing shithead and will inevitably do what you expect and afraid him to do. Can you list a few things that he will do?
What does that impossible thought experiment achieve?
I could just tell people to have nuance and not fall prey to idolising a right wing bigot who is less shit than the right wing bigot that imprisoned him?
Again this message is to those outside of Russia, some random thought experiment that goes nowhere but to continue this conversation and give you the ego to go “well ackshually” means shit all in the scheme of things.
You basically refuse to explain what could happen that would constitute for “bad” or “unwanted” if Navalny is supported.
You refuse to explain what exactly do you mean by right wing (exact bad stuff about it) and instead rely on your readers’ own interpretation to convince them that person should not be supported.
By providing exact example you could be more specific. And I could find some stream piece with Navalny’s point of view on something exact to show you that he would not actually do what you think he would do.
If you still want to avoid exact examples and only rely on those old clips about immigrants then you have no chance of proving me wrong. In his presidential program there was a proposition to require visa from them, and this can’t be viewed as bad. Else you’d have to tell me countries like US/EU are controlled by right wing shitheads already. It’s like telling your readers “hey don’t forget, this guy seems to be at least as bad as your own government, don’t support him”.
I’m not on Lemmy to convince Russians about what opinion they should hold tho. I’m stating an opinion about the matter on a public forum not exclusively for Russians.
We shouldn’t delude ourselves on the outside that this is a good person, even if he is an improvement on the current leadership. That is my point, because you see this time and time again, to the point that the outside world starts to essentially simp for the slightly less shit person.
And that is how I interpreted it.
Okay let me try it differently. Imagine a perfect clone of Navalny gained full power in your country. You know he is a right wing shithead and will inevitably do what you expect and afraid him to do. Can you list a few things that he will do?
Why?
What does that impossible thought experiment achieve?
I could just tell people to have nuance and not fall prey to idolising a right wing bigot who is less shit than the right wing bigot that imprisoned him?
Again this message is to those outside of Russia, some random thought experiment that goes nowhere but to continue this conversation and give you the ego to go “well ackshually” means shit all in the scheme of things.
It goes a long way that you are avoiding.
You basically refuse to explain what could happen that would constitute for “bad” or “unwanted” if Navalny is supported.
You refuse to explain what exactly do you mean by right wing (exact bad stuff about it) and instead rely on your readers’ own interpretation to convince them that person should not be supported.
By providing exact example you could be more specific. And I could find some stream piece with Navalny’s point of view on something exact to show you that he would not actually do what you think he would do.
If you still want to avoid exact examples and only rely on those old clips about immigrants then you have no chance of proving me wrong. In his presidential program there was a proposition to require visa from them, and this can’t be viewed as bad. Else you’d have to tell me countries like US/EU are controlled by right wing shitheads already. It’s like telling your readers “hey don’t forget, this guy seems to be at least as bad as your own government, don’t support him”.