Nearly 55% of voters in Switzerland on Sunday rejected an initiative championed by the top right-wing party to cap the rich Alpine country’s population at 10 million, early results showed.
The populist Swiss People’s Party, which has the most seats in parliament, has stirred up and fostered anti-migration sentiment over the years, notably about an influx of workers from the neighboring European Union.
Some have dubbed the proposal a “Swiss Brexit” because it could jeopardize Switzerland’s deep ties to the European Union anchored by deals that foster economic growth, cultural ties and cross-border travel, among other things. Switzerland is not one of the EU’s 27 member states, but it is all but surrounded by four of them
That’s not how immigration works. That’s how the right want you to think it works.
I have literally never met anybody who has had their job taken by immigrants. Companies aren’t allowed to pay immigrants less money than the current citizens so there’s no reason to hire an immigrant over a citizen, in fact the opposite, a citizen is much more likely to understand the language and culture (although you do meet some people) and therefore much more able to integrate, and effectively operate in the business, whatever that business is.
If you want to emigrate into a country you have to usually prove that you’re not going to cost that country any money. You have to prove that either you have the means to support yourself, or that you already have an offer of employment. The only exceptions that are made are for people who are fleeing persecution or conflict. But the vast majority of potential immigrants do not meet that criteria.
Empty claim.
Anecdote.
Of course they are. Minimum wage is not a thing in many countries.
Wrong.
In simple manufacturing jobs you don’t need to know the local language. Also here is a google-translated segment from an article posted this year by Swedish State media: “A compilation made by the Health and Social Care Inspectorate in 2023 shows that 97 percent of the country’s municipalities have health and social care staff who lack sufficient knowledge of the Swedish language to be able to understand what the patient himself is expressing and to be able to correctly pass it on.”
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sodertalje/sprakkrav-kan-bli-lag-utmanar-personalen-inom-aldrevarden-i-sodertalje
Let me know if you would like data from other nations I mentioned.
Since this thread is about Switzerland: We have the flankierende Massnahmen alongside Schengen exactly to prevent wage dumping. Companies get audited and we make sure foreign workers do not get paid less then local ones.
Edit: Most people who immigrate to Switzerland for work end up in high-income jobs. The lower-income roles get filled too, but that’s mainly down to labour shortages rather than wage dumping.
Yes. I mentioned something to this effect earlier. This is partly why Switzerland is not seeing a marked increase in violent crime.
Where did you mention that. And don’t tell me it is because our immigration system is somehow strict. I can move around Europe with a high likelyhood that nobody ever checks who I am.
In a separate comment about Switzerland specifically.
Switzerland’s is.
Switzerland is not in the EU. Even so, “In Switzerland, 69.7% of the prison population did not have Swiss citizenship, compared to 22.1% of total resident population (as of 2008).”
“In 2010, a statistic was published which listed delinquency by nationality (based on 2009 data). To avoid distortions due to demographic structure, only the male population aged between 18 and 34 was considered for each group. From the study, it became clear that crime rate is highly correlated on the country of origin of the various migrant groups. Thus, immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population. In between these extremes were immigrants from Former Yugoslavia, with crime rates of between 210% and 300% of the Swiss value.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Switzerland#Crime_rates
You are deviating. How is that what I said? And how is Switzerland not being in the EU relevant when they are part of Schengen?
And while your crime statistics are not in any way relevant to what I initially said, you do notice that the Initiative was mainly targeting the Billaterale contracts which are allowing immigration from Germany, France, Austria, you name it. These are immigrants they were trying to stop comming, not the ones from Nigeria which are a tiny fraction of who actually comes here. Their goal was to get rid of the wage protection system we have for EU workers and return to an older system where forein workers could be paid less and threatened with deportation if they didn’t behave the way their employers want.
You’ve made a lot of claims above you haven’t provided evidence for any of them. You do realise that being a rude and dismissive isn’t a counter arguement don’t you?
I understand that you didn’t read my comment and that is fine. This is just an echo-chamber any way, so I am not expecting any meaningful conversations. You have a nice day now.