Damn your eyes.
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Damn your eyes.
The most beautiful thing about the internet is that normally, I would have to spend a lot money on bear spray and a lot of effort administering it to get the same effect I get with the few clicks of a button.
As a Canadian, I will never forgive America or the American people for what they have voted for and continue to support. The entire world is worse off the past few years mostly because of you uneducated morons.
To be fair, Canada is also a genocidal settler-colony and an active imperialist power.
Point to me the last time Canada waged several illegal wars in the last two years.
I’ll wait.
https://justice-project.org/the-canada-brand-violence-and-canadian-mining-companies-in-latin-america/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan
Or are you going to say that Canada’s continued occupation of indigenous and First Nations land is also not genocidal? Downplaying Canada’s imperialism to own the Americans is about as low as you can get before you start directly hurting people. Don’t be a genocidal bootlicker for self satisfaction, it’s disgusting.
Yes.Canadians are just colder more polite americans from five years ago.
It’s better, but…
Imperialism is not when a state “wages illegal wars” (though this is a method of entrenching it or extending it), imperialism is a process of wealth and resource extraction from the global south. Canada participates in this international system, headed by the US Empire, as a willing recipient of the spoils. Further, Canada is a member of NATO, which is a military coalition of imperialist countries designed to prevent backlash from the global south.
I assume you at least agree with the understanding that Canada is a genocidal settler-colony, and therefore should be abolished as a state alongside the US Empire, Israel, etc. Decolonization is important for any genuine step forward, and that begins with recognizing indigenous sovereignty.
Who said anything about abolishing America? You’ve managed to make up something in your head then argue with me.
I just said me and millions of other Canadians will never trust America again. And you tried your best to turn that into something wildly different.
Go back to Reddit if you want to argue shit your made up yourself.
I said:
I directly compared Canada to the US Empire, as a lesser imperial power and a similarly genocidal settler-colony. I think the fact that Canadians distrust the US Empire is a bit hypocritical, a progressive movement within Canada should also oppose the Canadian state.
I wasn’t really trying to “twist” what you were saying, more give you an alternate perspective. For all of the reasons you hate the US, you should also hate Canada. Both are bad, Canada just is lower on the imperial ladder.
Not going back to Reddit, haven’t been there for years. Lemmy was made by communists, so there are a lot of us here.
Why? What does that have to do with anything I said earlier in my comments? Are you even replying to the right person? I said as a Canadian I will never trust America again, replying to someone saying
And I believe that it isn’t possible for America to find that honour again. Somehow that triggered you to go off into some tangent about imperial colonialism, NATO, and South Africa, as if any of that has to do with how much damage the USA has done Internationally since Trump took over, and how many other Americans they have hurt.
Get a life bud. Go find someone else to invent arguments with, I won’t be replying to you again.
I never mentioned South Africa, but either way I was simply extending the argument against the US to Canada itself. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable extension.
You know what would be cool? If you didn’t lump everyone in this country into one group. We are seeing results of decisions from 100 years ago, made by both of our countries. I will give you that the overwhelming majority of this country is uneducated. So much so that they don’t seem to notice that the election was blatantly rigged. And the same global group of people who did the rigging also operate in Canada (see: separatists). I don’t blame you for being angry and fearful of the dictator in this country making threats towards your home. But please understand that the issue is global and that some of us are doing something about it death be damned.
Ouch! Why would you comment at all if you think I’m an uneducated moron? Such a war-like stance. Like the americans?
Unless you’re American, I’m not talking to you. I was just commenting on the whole “they’ll be back and respected” thing.
I was replying that me, and many like me, will never again have respect for America. As a nation they are dead to us. A century of good will and allyship was pissed down the drain in two years and Americans celebrated it.
Fuck that and fuck them.
So you’re going to ignore all the people who actively are fighting against it and victims of it, and lump everyone into a monolith because that’s what you’ve been told.
I guess it is simpler to throw out nuance and just kinda be a bigot, but it’s not really in line with reality.
Way too late to be “fighting against it” when 2/3rds of your voting population allowed this to happen in the first place.
So you don’t support fighting against Trump then? If it’s too late then why are you mad at Americans for not doing enough? Make up your mind
That last 1/3 is really scared and you are making no effort to recognize or understand those people.
This is how people talk before they start to commit genocide and kill people for having been born in a country. Up to you if you wanna support actual individual people or just blind nationalism, eh?
So the sins of some are on the shoulders of all? There’s some Inuit corpses under some schools you might want to take care of then.
Yup, and I’m an advocate for holding those still alive who were involved in those Residential Schools be held accountable. Not to mention my brother is Indigenous so this really isn’t a flex.
Also, there are no more functioning Residential Schools in Canada anymore. Meanwhile the USA is still murdering their own citizens as we speak with ICE raids.
But I suppose when you don’t really have a leg to stand on, you’ll throw anything at the wall to make it stick. Last I checked my country in the last two years hasn’t invaded three countries, and threatened annexation of two of their closest allies. But what do I know.
It’s your country. Go fix it.
Oh hey guess what, I, and a lot of other people are trying to fix it, but according to you we’re just as bad. According to you, the person getting shot in the head is the same as the ice agent doing the shooting. According to you, the trans person getting beaten in the street is the same as the neo Nazi doing the beating.
Because we’re all Americans so we’re all shit. No victims here, only assholes who deserve it. Everyone’s the same and thinks the same.
That’s the problem, under your own reasoning you’re Canadian so you’re to blame. Doesn’t matter that your brother (but not you?) is indigenous. Doesn’t matter what your political beliefs or cultural background is. Why would anyone care about that? You’re just a Canadian.
You’re not blaming the Americans responsible or even the Americans who voted for this (some people were literally told by their religious leaders to vote for Trump and they thought it was the “right” thing to do, they didn’t support or even understand him). You’re blaming ALL Americans.
I’m glad you’re so happy to be Canadian, it’s a good country. There are a lot of terrible things Canada does too, it’s just not as global. If you were globally significant it would be worth comparing but this is apples and oranges.
Your argument is like saying Canada is evil compared to Luxembourg because Canada’s crime rate is higher and that we should kill all Canadians to make way for the peaceful Luxembourg.
Yes America absolutely sucks. Yes the people are stupid, bigoted, or outnumbered. They are still people. They are still individuals. Most of them didn’t want this shit and can’t do anything now.
Pour one out for international solidarity ig
Under global capitalism, ofc there’s gonna be a brutal top dawg, that’s the name of the game, and yes, American capital has been unimagineably violent. But not without an inner circle that gets a dash of the spoils, too. That’s what that other guy was saying. Nations that have good trade deals with the US, simply materially benefit from the exploitation of the global south.
We’re on a knife edge, of capital being threatened with a crisis it doesn’t really know how to get itself out of. Not without violence and repression, at least. These moments are also windows of opportunity, when capital shows its face, as a genocidal engine. Don’t do their work for them, sheesh.
Y’all pissed that away with your attempts to annex two foreign nations who were allies to you.
Do you think all Germans should’ve been genocided because of the Nazi’s actions?
The Germans didn’t vote Hitler out after his first term, then thought 4 years later when everyone and their dog said “Dude is going to be a dictator” and thought ‘Yeah we want that!’
Hitler rose to power over a slow burn of over a decade. Trump showed his hand the entire time he’s been in office.
Very different timelines. Not to mention Germany didn’t exactly have Global Communication Devices where the entire world is telling them “This is a bad idea, don’t do it” and Germany said “Nah, it won’t be that bad! He said he wants to be a dictator on Day 1 but he’s just trolling”.
During his campaign, Trump admitted to wanting to annex Canada. He said he’d be a dictator on Day 1. He said he’d remove all the “illegals”. As if we don’t have on historical record, a certain dictator you’re referring to SAYING THE SAME THINGS.
So… No? But yes to genocide of the people in the US? Still confused as to why you’re so angry towards the struggling, deliberately misguided and exploited working class people instead of the capitalist elite.
Because America did this. If you’re butt hurt I’m looping you and others like you in with America, that sounds remarkably like a you problem. America voted for Trump. America cheered on as he threatened other countries. America cheered as he bombed Iran and gas prices skyrocketed.
If you as an individual did not, then good for you. But your country did. This whole thread started off with me saying I have no respect for America after everything they have done, and will never have respect for America ever again. If you take offence to that, do something to change how the world looks at you.
Mild critique, there is no “American nation,” there are settler-colonists that do not form a nation, colonized indigenous groups, and semi-colonies of formerly enslaved peoples.