• AeonFelis@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    My point stands. D taking your vote and your donation while not doing anything is still less bad than R actively stubbing you with his knife.

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      4 days ago

      LOL. And the good cop giving you a coffee with a gentle tone of voice is better than the bad cop screaming at you. The D is literally watching the guy with the knife and going “whatever” and you think they’re on your side?

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          3 days ago

          Sorry, the best we can do is vote for people who will stab you or people who won’t stop the people who will stab you. As it turns out, voting isn’t how we avoid getting stabbed. Who knew!?

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            3 days ago

            that’s unfortunate, but in this case, if it were up to me (I know it isn’t), I’d pick the ones who won’t stop the stabbing over the ones who will do the stabbing.

            I don’t wanna be selfish though. It’s your choice, not mine. It only impacts me.

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            3 days ago

            R can only stab when if elected. While D holds office, R may get to keep his knife but actually stabbing is a felony. Once R is in office, it is perfectly legal for him to stab and he can thus do much more stubbing. He also gets to direct federal funding toward stabbing.

            Voting is what keeps R away out of office. Voting prevents stabbing.

            These are some very complicated concepts, so let me draw you a diagram:

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              3 days ago

              Have you ever seen an R go to jail while Ds are in office? Again. The Ds share in the bipartisan consensus to give military surplus to the police, they are fine with cop cities, they are fine with bombing brown people into oblivion, they are fine with couping other governments. They are always an accomplice to the stabbings. Keeping Rs out of office, which you mathematicallly cannot reasonably rely on, will do nothing to stop the stabbings.

              The research across decades has shown no reduction of police violence under Democrats and no increase under Republicans. The research has shown corporate profits are higher under Ds than under Rs. Stop believing your bullshit flowchart. It doesn’t match reality.

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                3 days ago

                The research across decades has shown no reduction of police violence under Democrats and no increase under Republicans.

                I assume said research does not include current ICE activities?

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                  3 days ago

                  Again, Obama created the conditions that we are currently in. He overhauled DHS and ICE, ballooned their headcount and budget, created the policy framework to allow them to be deployed in cities around the country, and appointed Homan as the head of it all. Under Obama, 3M people were deported. Under Trump, he just hit 1.5M. And Homan was Trump’s deportation czar for BOTH of his terms.

                  And again, Biden participated in the policy creation under Obama, and when he saw what Trump was doing, he took office and did NOTHING to change the policies. All he did was use his prerogative to not deploy them in this manner. He LITERALLY saw Trump with a knife and shrugged.

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                    2 days ago

                    Obama deported a lot, and violated due process, but it’s still not as bad as Trump’s deportations because the deportees were released at the countries they were deported at - which sucks if said country is an active war zone, yes, but still not as bad as being sent to a prison like the one in El Salvador where not even SCOTUS can retrieve them.

                    Evil? Yes. As evil as Trump? no.