• makeshift0546@lemmy.today
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    10 days ago

    Yeah, the US totally has the ability to lose a war in the straights while also sending tanks to multiple cities.

    And the US totally rolled the taliban right? And Russias massive supply helped them soooooooo much against Ukraine right?

    Do you fuckers pay attention? It would take 5% of the country being pissed off enough to throw the country into chaos.

    Don’t even get me started on how easy it would actually be to drone infrastructure with essential unlimited areas to move freely and stage some shit like that.

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      10 days ago

      You need some workers refusing to work to throw a country in a chaos, the problem is organizing the workers tho

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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        8 days ago

        It amazes me people think this is realistic. (Not you, others)

        People didn’t get off the couch to vote, one of the simpler things they couldve done. You think they’re buying guns and going toe to toe with the us military? Good lord.

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      10 days ago

      You’re right that 5% of people could disrupt the government.

      However, achieving that 5% is no small feat. Keyboard warriors are not helpful, you need people to be ready and willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause.

      Buying a weapon doesn’t mean someone has joined the 5%. A far more meaningful recruitment strategy would be to join political groups.

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        9 days ago

        wait wait wait, you are arguing that fighting fascism is hard…. so don’t do it.

        and i am raptly watching the “political movements” posture the current emergency to bid for more power so they can get special treatment from their corporate doners. and its going REAL well isn’t it?

        the united states hasn’t won a war against an insurgency in near 100 years, and that’s considering the insurgencies not being able to attack us infrastructure directly. and an insurgency is much easier to form when the people are armed.

        you want to keep trying political remedies and expect a different outcome, be my guest. but don’t tell people to sell their options to throw in with you when your efforts have resulted in well, this…

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          9 days ago

          Fighting fascism is hard, dumbass.

          Insurgents die. A lot. Are you ready to lay down your life for the cause?

          Political remedies and armed resistance are not mutually exclusive. In fact an armed resistance is the ultimate political remedy, and needs a strong foundation of political strategy, or else your armed resistance will end up being frustrated aimless terrorists.

          • WraithGear@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            What ?

            Your shit is totally fucked already but I’m struggling to see a point at which some fediverse user having a gun would have averted the current predicament of US non-fascist citizens.

            There are so many alternatives to the word “armed” in this sentence that would be a lot more effective: educated, informed, active… and so on.

            this you? actively arguing against “the ultimate political remedy” you literally declared that ANY OTHER interpretation of the word armed EXCEPT THE ULTIMATE POLITICAL REMEDY is effecive. so what, when the political angle you are pushing for, which has gotten us to this point fails, and the camps split over, that will be the time to get armed and fight oppression?

            all the while, the alternative party to fascism is doing a :

            https://quokk.au/c/politics/p/1051770/ohio-dem-party-has-banned-criticism-of-gov-candidate-amy-acton-calling-trans-girls-boys

            yea, no shit the paths arn’t mutualy exclusive. then why did YOU start the argument against that?