Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there’s no suicide in China.
All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I’m aware enough of China’s history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations.
They do but most countries have a means of tracking national suicide rates. China intentionally doesn’t and this is a repeated pattern with the country’s healthcare reporting.
We simply can’t even argue about it because the data is unavailable. So this claim is also unverifiable.
Is this the data you’re looking for? I don’t have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can’t look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn’t helpful.
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Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there’s no suicide in China.
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I’d need to see evidence of this, all you’ve done is list suspicions.
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All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I’m aware enough of China’s history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations.
They do but most countries have a means of tracking national suicide rates. China intentionally doesn’t and this is a repeated pattern with the country’s healthcare reporting.
We simply can’t even argue about it because the data is unavailable. So this claim is also unverifiable.
So in other words, you don’t have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That’s not how proof works.
That’s silly.
In other words the data is incomplete from the top so any further discussion is speculation at best.
Is this the data you’re looking for? I don’t have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can’t look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn’t helpful.
https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109
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