The most electable Democrat in US history was FDR, who ran on a platform with far more in common with the DSA platform than the modern Democratic party. The DSA is employing an entryist strategy to restore the Democratic party to its former glory during the rollout of the New Deal. The recent wave of DSA-backed candidates are fully cognizant of the fact we have an entrenched two-party system and are acting accordingly.
Enough time for the Democratic party to completely abandon the economic populism that once made it so popular they had to create term limits to put a stop to it.
Biden got the most votes of any presidential candidate ever and you’re telling me about democratic electability vs leftists who have gotten a maximum of like two percent of the popular vote?
If you were arguing in good faith you wouldn’t use a statistic that is deliberately misleading due to not being adjusted for population growth. You’re also moving the goalposts; we were talking about progressives running on the Democratic party ticket and you’re bringing up vote percentages for third parties, after we’ve already established that we have an entrenched two-party system that makes third parties unviable.
It means that Biden got more votes than Trump did for his second term even though population increased in those four years so it is not a misleading statistic.
I’m talking about current events not presidents from a hundred years ago.
Trump winning in 2024 with fewer votes than Biden got in 2020 does not support the argument that moderate Dems are more electable. In fact, it demonstrates a considerable dysfunction in the electability of moderate Democrats because it means that voters abandoned the party en masse in favor of not voting at all. Trump didn’t gain voters, the moderate Democrats lost them. If you want to be electable from now onwards you would be beyond foolish to emulate Biden or Harris.
Unfortunately it is our reality for the foreseeable future and it would be for the best of everyone to be able to recognize that fact.
The most electable Democrat in US history was FDR, who ran on a platform with far more in common with the DSA platform than the modern Democratic party. The DSA is employing an entryist strategy to restore the Democratic party to its former glory during the rollout of the New Deal. The recent wave of DSA-backed candidates are fully cognizant of the fact we have an entrenched two-party system and are acting accordingly.
FDR was president almost a hundred years ago.
Enough time for the Democratic party to completely abandon the economic populism that once made it so popular they had to create term limits to put a stop to it.
Biden got the most votes of any presidential candidate ever and you’re telling me about democratic electability vs leftists who have gotten a maximum of like two percent of the popular vote?
If you were arguing in good faith you wouldn’t use a statistic that is deliberately misleading due to not being adjusted for population growth. You’re also moving the goalposts; we were talking about progressives running on the Democratic party ticket and you’re bringing up vote percentages for third parties, after we’ve already established that we have an entrenched two-party system that makes third parties unviable.
FYI they never do
It means that Biden got more votes than Trump did for his second term even though population increased in those four years so it is not a misleading statistic.
I’m talking about current events not presidents from a hundred years ago.
Trump winning in 2024 with fewer votes than Biden got in 2020 does not support the argument that moderate Dems are more electable. In fact, it demonstrates a considerable dysfunction in the electability of moderate Democrats because it means that voters abandoned the party en masse in favor of not voting at all. Trump didn’t gain voters, the moderate Democrats lost them. If you want to be electable from now onwards you would be beyond foolish to emulate Biden or Harris.
Trump gained votes:
2020: 74,223,975 votes.
2024: 77,302,580 votes.