• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    23 hours ago

    DSA is the field, not the team. If you’re left wing, you go there because that’s where you can find left wing people to organize.

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      22 hours ago

      The left wing should be taking over the Democratic Party and seizing levers of power, not cosplaying as revolutionaries in the DSA, the organization responsible for moronic slogans like “defund the police.”

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        3 hours ago

        That’s been the strategy for 10 years, since Bernie’s first run.

        How’s that working?

        I’m not knocking the DSA, but the idea of a left-wing takeover of the Democratic Party is less applicable than ever. Unlike 2016, the centrist Dems are well aware of the threat to their left - and it’s obvious, that’s the ONLY thing they’re determined to stop. Which is why they’re currently spending their time attacking Hassan Piker and anyone else opposing the genocide in Gaza, not Donald Trump.

        Any victory you find in the Democratic Party will be pyrric at best, imho. By the time you defeat these people, what will be left?

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          11 hours ago

          If I had ANY EVIDENCE that supporting organizations like the DSA would help left wing goals, then I would do so. Instead of providing such evidence you’re spouting nonsense ideology at me and literally proving my point.

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        The DSA didn’t originate that slogan, and it was originally “Defund, disarm, disband the police.” Anyway, how can anyone “seize the levers of power” without changing anything about how policing works in this country?

        Also, taking over the Democratic Party from the inside is literally the DSA’s stated goal. Why are you so mad at them? They agree with you on this one!

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          11 hours ago

          If you don’t have power, you’re not changing the police.

          This isn’t about ideology for me. I actually want the police defunded and reformed. If I thought joining the dork squad would get me closer to that goal, I would do so.