Do you intend to contribute anything to this conversation more substantial than, “That’s STOOOPID, you’re so STOOOPID, those headlines are STOOOPID,” because you have yet to provide a single word to actually explain why any of them would not be valid examples.
No, it takes twice as much energy to refute lies and stupidity. The iron dome bill is exclusively for defense weapons intended to intercept icbms etc, but that wouldnt matter to you because you probably would say something insane like “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” or something to that extent. So we’re not having a conversation based in reality. You screeching “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” isn’t going to make several million Jews pack up their bags and exit the Levant. So we’re back to living in the world of Twitter memes and slop sound bytes.
Now, I’m not saying I can predict how you’re going to move the goalposts. But I can infer where you stand
Ah, there’s your reason. You don’t care that she sent arms to Israel because you want arms to be sent to Israel.
See, now we can identify the point of disagreement, which is that I’m not a genocidal Zionist.
The iron dome bill is exclusively for defense weapons
The thing about defense is that once you have it locked down, you’re free to do whatever aggression you want because nobody will be able to retaliate. The possibility of reprisals is the only reason Israel hasn’t fired up gas chambers and furnaces.
By your logic, why don’t we just send Iran, Palestine, etc. the same kind of “defensive” weapons? It’s not like they’ll be able to hurt anyone with them. You can say “Iran doesn’t have the right to exist” or whatever but that’s not going to cause millions of Iranians to pack up and leave.
No, it takes twice as much energy to refute lies and stupidity.
So essentially you can just say whatever you want with nothing to back it up, gotcha.
Correct? What TF do you mean correct? Correct we should send Iran missile defense systems?
They are not key allies in the me.
So you support the alliance with the genocidal regime.
And now we’re back in the world of slop sound bytes. I’m so happy for you that you’re anti-genocidal.
Describing things dismissively doesn’t make them untrue.
I don’t even know why you’re weighing in on this conversation. Obviously, I’m criticizing her from an anti-Zionist perspective. If you want to argue that she aligns with your Zionist values, then sure, I agree with that completely. From the perspective that genocide is actually bad, however, the criticism is completely valid.
Because it doesn’t help the conversation at all if all we are limited to is slop twitter soundbites. A real discussion would entail anything about actionable solutions or realistic paths to de-escalation. And that includes bringing Israel to the table. That’s what Palestinians need. Not white kids sitting around on college campuses chanting “free Palestine”. Hate her for all you want, but Kamala was the vehicle for de-escalation. Not Trump.
Not running the mill on a collection of LLM slop soundbites “from the river to the sea” / " apartheid colonial ethnostate" over and over and over is just…meaningless. If you guys aren’t capable of addressing these with real concrete actionable items, it’s just effervescent self masturbatory ejaculate
Nothing I’ve said or cited was AI generated or had anything to do with twitter, nor were they soundbites. I linked full articles put out by the DSA.
And that includes bringing Israel to the table.
And that’s exactly why they don’t need to be given weapons “defensive” or otherwise. How exactly do you think they can be brought to the table? By asking them nicely to not do genocide? Trying to appease Israel by giving them weapons is no more possible than trying to appease Hitler by giving him Czechoslovakia. There is exactly one limiting factor on Israeli aggression, exactly one way to bring them to the table, and it is force. Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.
If you guys aren’t capable of addressing these with real concrete actionable items, it’s just effervescent self masturbatory ejaculate
You guys had full control of the executive branch, and what did you do to stop the genocide? How did giving them weapons and asking nicely to “bring them to the table” work out for you?
I find it hard to believe anyone’s dumb enough to actually think that’s a viable strategy. Again, you’re just a Zionist, you just support giving them weapons because you don’t have any problem whatsoever with what’s happening there, you just don’t want to say it outright because it sounds bad.
Cool.
Yep yep. It’s all slop headlines all the way
Do you intend to contribute anything to this conversation more substantial than, “That’s STOOOPID, you’re so STOOOPID, those headlines are STOOOPID,” because you have yet to provide a single word to actually explain why any of them would not be valid examples.
No, it takes twice as much energy to refute lies and stupidity. The iron dome bill is exclusively for defense weapons intended to intercept icbms etc, but that wouldnt matter to you because you probably would say something insane like “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” or something to that extent. So we’re not having a conversation based in reality. You screeching “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” isn’t going to make several million Jews pack up their bags and exit the Levant. So we’re back to living in the world of Twitter memes and slop sound bytes.
Now, I’m not saying I can predict how you’re going to move the goalposts. But I can infer where you stand
Ah, there’s your reason. You don’t care that she sent arms to Israel because you want arms to be sent to Israel.
See, now we can identify the point of disagreement, which is that I’m not a genocidal Zionist.
The thing about defense is that once you have it locked down, you’re free to do whatever aggression you want because nobody will be able to retaliate. The possibility of reprisals is the only reason Israel hasn’t fired up gas chambers and furnaces.
By your logic, why don’t we just send Iran, Palestine, etc. the same kind of “defensive” weapons? It’s not like they’ll be able to hurt anyone with them. You can say “Iran doesn’t have the right to exist” or whatever but that’s not going to cause millions of Iranians to pack up and leave.
So essentially you can just say whatever you want with nothing to back it up, gotcha.
I’ve explained what the iron dome is.
Correct. They are not key allies in the me.
And now we’re back in the world of slop sound bytes. I’m so happy for you that you’re anti-genocidal. How brave and noble
Everyone knows what the Iron Dome is, dipshit.
Correct? What TF do you mean correct? Correct we should send Iran missile defense systems?
So you support the alliance with the genocidal regime.
Describing things dismissively doesn’t make them untrue.
I don’t even know why you’re weighing in on this conversation. Obviously, I’m criticizing her from an anti-Zionist perspective. If you want to argue that she aligns with your Zionist values, then sure, I agree with that completely. From the perspective that genocide is actually bad, however, the criticism is completely valid.
Because it doesn’t help the conversation at all if all we are limited to is slop twitter soundbites. A real discussion would entail anything about actionable solutions or realistic paths to de-escalation. And that includes bringing Israel to the table. That’s what Palestinians need. Not white kids sitting around on college campuses chanting “free Palestine”. Hate her for all you want, but Kamala was the vehicle for de-escalation. Not Trump.
Not running the mill on a collection of LLM slop soundbites “from the river to the sea” / " apartheid colonial ethnostate" over and over and over is just…meaningless. If you guys aren’t capable of addressing these with real concrete actionable items, it’s just effervescent self masturbatory ejaculate
Nothing I’ve said or cited was AI generated or had anything to do with twitter, nor were they soundbites. I linked full articles put out by the DSA.
And that’s exactly why they don’t need to be given weapons “defensive” or otherwise. How exactly do you think they can be brought to the table? By asking them nicely to not do genocide? Trying to appease Israel by giving them weapons is no more possible than trying to appease Hitler by giving him Czechoslovakia. There is exactly one limiting factor on Israeli aggression, exactly one way to bring them to the table, and it is force. Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.
You guys had full control of the executive branch, and what did you do to stop the genocide? How did giving them weapons and asking nicely to “bring them to the table” work out for you?
I find it hard to believe anyone’s dumb enough to actually think that’s a viable strategy. Again, you’re just a Zionist, you just support giving them weapons because you don’t have any problem whatsoever with what’s happening there, you just don’t want to say it outright because it sounds bad.