Who the fuck said anything about Trump? Pure whataboutism.
Why are you acting like it’s some sort of revalation that I don’t like Harris? I’m criticizing AOC for being too friendly to the genocidal Zionist regime, and Harris was even more friendly with them. Or do you just like the soundbite of “And there it is?”
No, I didn’t say you used an llm. I’m saying your talking points are indistinguishable from one. It’s just slop sound bytes, nothing more.
Whereas you have the incredibly unique perspective of blindly believing and supporting whatever the politicians of your preferred tribe say or do.
The fact that you can’t at least acknowledge that Israel was also being attacked, especially after Oct 7
That’s not a fact, you pulled that one completely out of your ass. I’m happy to acknowledge it. It changes absolutely nothing about my stance.
You are saying so much and nothing at the same time.
For someone who claims to hate “soundbites” you sure do love trying to make your ‘zingers’ sound profound.
You did the thing. You equivocated Kamala with what is happening now:
Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.
This is patently false. Biden did an awful job reigning Bibi, that’s true. But to just sit here and pretend that today’s outcome would be the same if Kamala was president is just asinine and out of touch. But there is no way to convince you, because none of this conversation is grounded in reality.
Yea, you’re right. I’m not doing a great job debunking these stupid talking points. I’ve heard this dialog tree a million times on Lemmy. That’s all it is. A dialog tree of same stupid “genocide Kamala” “you’re a zionist” etc.
If you’re not going to put in the work to understand i/p and treat everything as a simple soundbyte I can just match your energy. It’s no different really
You equivocated Kamala with what is happening now:
Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.
That’s not equating (equivocating is something different btw) what’s happening now with what would’ve happened under Harris, it’s equating what would’ve happened under Harris with what did happen under Biden. Since Harris explicitly chose not to differentiate herself from Biden on any policy, it’s an entirely fair comparison.
Biden did an awful job reigning Bibi, that’s true.
Yes, because he made absolutely no attempt to. Because he literally bypassed congress in order to send them more weapons.
But there is no way to convince you, because none of this conversation is grounded in reality.
It’s a fact that Biden bypassed congress to send Israel more weapons
It’s a fact that Kamala did nothing to suggest her policy would have deviated from Biden’s in any way
It’s a fact that AOC voted to send weapons to Israel
It’s a fact that Israel is a genocidal, apartheid state
It’s a fact that your approach of appeasement was already tried and did nothing to stop the genocide.
All of these points are reality, all of them are supported by evidence, all of those are things that you refuse to acknowledge and refuse to ground the conversation in.
So yes, I completely agree that this conversation is not grounded in reality, and yes, there’s no way to convince me any more than you could convince me that the earth is flat, because all of the facts are on my side.
A dialog tree of same stupid “genocide Kamala” “you’re a zionist” etc.
When you support genocide and Zionism, people are gonna say that you support genocide and Zionism. Because it’s true. What do you even expect to happen? How am I even expected to describe your views when you go around being like, “Actually, it’s good to send Israel weapons?”
“All these people are calling me a pool pisser, right on cue, like they’re reading from a script,” you say, after pissing in the pool.
If you’re not going to put in the work to understand i/p and treat everything as a simple soundbyte I can just match your energy. It’s no different really
So, because you see me as knee-jerk opposing Israel, your response is to knee-jerk support Israel.
What a ridiculous conversation. You’re very obviously a Zionist, it’s like you’re just ashamed to accept the label.
Who the fuck said anything about Trump? Pure whataboutism.
Why are you acting like it’s some sort of revalation that I don’t like Harris? I’m criticizing AOC for being too friendly to the genocidal Zionist regime, and Harris was even more friendly with them. Or do you just like the soundbite of “And there it is?”
Whereas you have the incredibly unique perspective of blindly believing and supporting whatever the politicians of your preferred tribe say or do.
That’s not a fact, you pulled that one completely out of your ass. I’m happy to acknowledge it. It changes absolutely nothing about my stance.
For someone who claims to hate “soundbites” you sure do love trying to make your ‘zingers’ sound profound.
You did the thing. You equivocated Kamala with what is happening now:
This is patently false. Biden did an awful job reigning Bibi, that’s true. But to just sit here and pretend that today’s outcome would be the same if Kamala was president is just asinine and out of touch. But there is no way to convince you, because none of this conversation is grounded in reality.
Yea, you’re right. I’m not doing a great job debunking these stupid talking points. I’ve heard this dialog tree a million times on Lemmy. That’s all it is. A dialog tree of same stupid “genocide Kamala” “you’re a zionist” etc.
If you’re not going to put in the work to understand i/p and treat everything as a simple soundbyte I can just match your energy. It’s no different really
That’s not equating (equivocating is something different btw) what’s happening now with what would’ve happened under Harris, it’s equating what would’ve happened under Harris with what did happen under Biden. Since Harris explicitly chose not to differentiate herself from Biden on any policy, it’s an entirely fair comparison.
Yes, because he made absolutely no attempt to. Because he literally bypassed congress in order to send them more weapons.
It’s a fact that Biden bypassed congress to send Israel more weapons
It’s a fact that Kamala did nothing to suggest her policy would have deviated from Biden’s in any way
It’s a fact that AOC voted to send weapons to Israel
It’s a fact that Israel is a genocidal, apartheid state
It’s a fact that your approach of appeasement was already tried and did nothing to stop the genocide.
All of these points are reality, all of them are supported by evidence, all of those are things that you refuse to acknowledge and refuse to ground the conversation in.
So yes, I completely agree that this conversation is not grounded in reality, and yes, there’s no way to convince me any more than you could convince me that the earth is flat, because all of the facts are on my side.
When you support genocide and Zionism, people are gonna say that you support genocide and Zionism. Because it’s true. What do you even expect to happen? How am I even expected to describe your views when you go around being like, “Actually, it’s good to send Israel weapons?”
“All these people are calling me a pool pisser, right on cue, like they’re reading from a script,” you say, after pissing in the pool.
So, because you see me as knee-jerk opposing Israel, your response is to knee-jerk support Israel.
What a ridiculous conversation. You’re very obviously a Zionist, it’s like you’re just ashamed to accept the label.