• Devial@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Imo, if it was your gun, unless it was literally stolen from a locked gun safe, anyone who dies by it is automatically your fault.

    Doesn’t really matter what the circumstances were. If anyone is even in a position to be injured or killed by your weapon, it usually means you acted negligently in either handling or storing the weapon.

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      14 hours ago

      They were arguing at the time, he definitely just shot her and lied about it. Even with a sig 320, you need to abuse the fucking thing to get it to go off.

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        14 hours ago

        Even if he weren’t lying, it would still be negligent homicide. If you point a gun at someone, you are responsible if they get injured or killed. Doesn’t matter if you pulled the trigger, mishandled the gun or a magic fairy pixie materialised and pulled the trigger for you.

        The mere fact that you pointed a loaded gun at another person already makes you responsible per se in my book.

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      21 hours ago

      Imo, if it was your gun, unless it was literally stolen from a locked gun safe

      I disagree, if it could be stolen from your gun safe, you didn’t secure it enough, you should still be partially at fault.

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        21 hours ago

        -break into someone’s house

        -rob their gun safe at gunpoint

        -shoot them with their own weapon

        -“its their fault officer that gun wasn’t adequately secured”

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          18 hours ago

          Should have shot the robber with the backup that they keep in [REDACTED]!

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            13 hours ago

            No they had to stop storing them there after the Supreme Court went hard right. Something something Sodomy v Gomorrah or some damn thing. IDK the Republicans just make it up as they go, so it could be literally anything.

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        20 hours ago

        As much of a fan as I am of gun control, expecting gun owners to have a safe that is literally, physically impossible to break into is wildly unreasonable

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          15 hours ago

          Gun safes are particularly bad most of the time. Many of the big ones are super thin sheet metal on top of a sheetrock core. And the small ones just get stolen with the guns in them.

          It’s actually why I keep my pistol in the cash safe in my used commercial van. The safe’s surrounded by an additional steel box on all 4 sides with the door facing up and bolted into the car body the in a way that you’d have to open the safe to get to the bolts, with the other side of the bolts located so you’d have to remove the gas tank to get to it.

          The van was actually stolen once before I owned it, and the thieves never did get to the cash in the safe, so I figured it’s a more secure place for my pistol than a safe in my house.

          I’m also usually pretty close to my car, whereas I’m away from my house for long stretches.