• shartgargle@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    He just straight up murdered his daughter and they bought the story “I dunno officer, it just went off”. It’s bullshit on a whole other level. Guns don’t just “go off” unless it was an sks it took a decision. And that decision was that he loves trump more than his daughter. As a veteran, a gun owner and a parent, that sickens me more than just about anything you could conjure up from history.

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        That’s exactly right. Even if it were true (it isn’t) he still fucked up in several ways.

        The plausibility of this story is 0. “I hate trump, sure, I’ll go take a look at your gun, why not?” Nothing in this story tracks.

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      Honestly if you handle a gun there should always some form of punishment. Don’t know the legal system there but something like reckless killing. No matter how it happened. To kill someone you need to do a lot of things wrong and it does not just happen.

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        Yeah, you’re violating multiple of the basic gun safety rules if a gun accidentally goes off and kills someone. (p320 excluded)

        If those aren’t so drilled into your mind that it’s instinct not to violate them, you aren’t responsible enough to have a gun.

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        Handle a gun and hurt someone*

        Fully agree, it should be automatic jail time.

        Well except that one time I got punched by the slide rail but we don’t need to go into that.

        Hell, even if someone else hurts someone with your gun you should still be liable. Unless they broke in to your house, broke into your safe, and got your lock off, but that’s very unlikely to happen.

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      Serious question here, are guns allowed to be stored loaded in the United States? Gun laws here are really strict, guns are not stored loaded. To the point where while hunting you’re supposed to keep the gun clear right up until you intend to shoot the game. Then immediately clear it when you’re done. Not that everyone follows that rule but it’s there. The idea of putting a gun away still loaded is insane and this would be a slam dunk case here on that alone.

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        I assume in the US people who are afraid of “home invasions” and similar rationalise that they need to be able to access a weapon in an emergency without being slowed down by rules like that. Which does make sense, if you live in a post-apocalyptic video game.

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        Storing them loaded? There are Americans who keep loaded rifles/shotguns right next to their front door.

        There are basically no rules about firearms in the US because the gun lobby has successfully convinced the majority of Americans that any gun legislation, no matter how reasonable or well intentioned it may be, is an encroachment on their constitutional rights.

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          Never mind the fact that when the gun control laws were originally written, to shoot a gun twice within 5 minutes was considered fast reloading.

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      I honestly hope this dude kills himself. Do the world a favor.

      But he’s MAGA, so I wouldn’t count on guilt/shame. And I’m sure Jesus will forgive him, and it’ll just become part of his “testimony”