Negligent discharge is much easier with guns like these, in my opinion (because apparently there’s significant debate on this, somehow).
A drunk guy accidentally pointing a gun is plausible (I’ve had it happen to me before, probably more than once). Add the negligence of a drunken idiot and possible shitty trigger discipline, and I could easily imagine a negligent discharge here.
There’s also the possibility that it wasn’t even his finger that pulled the trigger. He could have snagged the trigger on something, being a fumbling idiot. Some people have accidentally shot themselves when trying to holster guns like these. This condition is commonly known as “Glock leg”.
Still, regardless of intent, the gun was pointed at his daughter, the trigger was pulled, and she’s dead — a sum of his own decisions, accident or not. It is WILD that he gets to walk free.
You do not accidental raise a gun, point it at someone, and pull the trigger. Total bullshit to say otherwise.
Also get out of there with that trigger nonsense. It takes a conscious amount of force to pull back a trigger. They’re designed that way to prevent accidents. They don’t go off because someone has their finger on it ( which is intent to fire anyway)
He may have been very drunk and in an altered state. He probably did something his sober self never would. But he still chose to do it.
The only thing you said that’s even plausible is it could have snagged on something. Which of course he still chose to do a lot of illegal actions leading up to that
Correct. AFAIK, he did not claim that lifting the gun was an accident.
point it at someone
Any experienced RSO (range safety officer) would easily disagree.
and pull the trigger.
Yet somehow, triggers get accidentally pulled sometimes 🤷🏻♂️. There’s a term for this: Negligent discharge (not to be confused with accidental discharge).
Also get out of there with that trigger nonsense. It takes a conscious amount of force to pull back a trigger.
“A trigger”? You mean in general? Like as a universal rule that applies to all triggers? That’s not how it works. There’s a very wide range of trigger pull weights, travel lengths, etc.
IIRC, most Glocks have a trigger pull weight of around 5.5 lbs (depending on model). It’s not nothing, but it’s definitely not a lot. Negligent discharges can and do happen.
Anyway, sounds like we pretty much agree on the rest.
He didn’t accidentally pick it up. He said so himself (according to the BBC article linked in the OP).
He was drinking, and it’s a Glock.
Glocks have a “passive” safety. There’s no manual safety, just this little extra thing in the trigger, which does not require an extra step to fire.
Negligent discharge is much easier with guns like these, in my opinion (because apparently there’s significant debate on this, somehow).
A drunk guy accidentally pointing a gun is plausible (I’ve had it happen to me before, probably more than once). Add the negligence of a drunken idiot and possible shitty trigger discipline, and I could easily imagine a negligent discharge here.
There’s also the possibility that it wasn’t even his finger that pulled the trigger. He could have snagged the trigger on something, being a fumbling idiot. Some people have accidentally shot themselves when trying to holster guns like these. This condition is commonly known as “Glock leg”.
Still, regardless of intent, the gun was pointed at his daughter, the trigger was pulled, and she’s dead — a sum of his own decisions, accident or not. It is WILD that he gets to walk free.
Yes I’m familiar with firearms.
You do not accidental raise a gun, point it at someone, and pull the trigger. Total bullshit to say otherwise.
Also get out of there with that trigger nonsense. It takes a conscious amount of force to pull back a trigger. They’re designed that way to prevent accidents. They don’t go off because someone has their finger on it ( which is intent to fire anyway)
He may have been very drunk and in an altered state. He probably did something his sober self never would. But he still chose to do it.
The only thing you said that’s even plausible is it could have snagged on something. Which of course he still chose to do a lot of illegal actions leading up to that
Correct. AFAIK, he did not claim that lifting the gun was an accident.
Any experienced RSO (range safety officer) would easily disagree.
Yet somehow, triggers get accidentally pulled sometimes 🤷🏻♂️. There’s a term for this: Negligent discharge (not to be confused with accidental discharge).
“A trigger”? You mean in general? Like as a universal rule that applies to all triggers? That’s not how it works. There’s a very wide range of trigger pull weights, travel lengths, etc.
IIRC, most Glocks have a trigger pull weight of around 5.5 lbs (depending on model). It’s not nothing, but it’s definitely not a lot. Negligent discharges can and do happen.
Anyway, sounds like we pretty much agree on the rest.