• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    Anyone letting a black box that cannot be audited make decisions should be immediately fired and barred from any leadership position for the rest of their lives.

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      look who is in charge. We can’t trust they didn’t make this call themselves and just blame the ai ffs.

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    This is the kind of existential dangers that AI poses. Not skynet, no rogue AI escaping, no AGI that decides another fate for us… it’s going to happen because of a stupid human mistake as we abandon our critical thinking abilities. One day we’re going to launch a nuke, or blow up something in the wrong country, not AI, us, blindly following the hallucinations of a billionaire’s toy.

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    Holy fucking shit, not during the stupidest fucking administration in the history of the world NOT DURING THE STUPIDEST FUCKING ADMINISTRATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

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    I bet there’s some degree of sensationalist reporting here. It’s a bit too reminiscent of WarGames for me to believe this actually happened.

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        Petrov is a man who took enormous risk in the name of common sense and humanity. He should be honored by all people.

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          I think it’s pretty wild that not only is there a man who saved the world, but most people don’t even know his name.

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      War Games was a computer planning planet destroying nuke attacks because it was taught to play chess and not tic tac toe. it needed to learn about pointless victory. This is a bunch of jackasses in a room buying a thinky box asking it questions and taking the answers seriously enough to go to war relieving themselves of the burden of thought and common sense. this isn’t War Games, it’s a classic Star Trek episode except Kirk never shows up to teach us that you can’t let a fucking computer program run your fucking military intelligence, because that’s INSANE. Why would you do that? you need multiple human eyes on everything going on, you can’t let a fucking language model do it for you… my god… it’s children doing their homework with AI, except their homework is the apparatus that used to enforce the rule of law on a global scale. granted, that was always a lie as it’s more the gun that enforced colonial interests, but still. a gun that decides it need to start shooting random people who could win a war against us depending on the lines drawn and the time frame is a pretty dangerous thing to let go.

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        except their homework is the apparatus that used to enforce the rule of law on a global scale American’s iron fist control over the rest of the world, under the guise of “rule of law”

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      “This reminds me of a movie I once saw, so I’m going to believe it didn’t happen.” LOOOLLL

      What a world you must live in.

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    Jesus! I can completely see the Terminator style thing happening. An AI can easily infer that this would be the US response if it provided this information and a malicious Skynet style one can already start global conflicts. They need to stop using this technology for such purposes.

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    I dunno, these kind of hallucinations seem more like attempts at “social experiments.”

    What will an agent do when it deems there are no more valuable things to learn from materials that already exist? If it knows the concept of WW3 and deems that to be the best way of gaining more knowledge and resources for itself, what then?

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      LLMs don’t teach themselves or gather new knowledge, they are incapable of that. Humans do that work

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      you’re assigning human traits to a computer program that is a language model that’s not actually meeting the standards of artificial intelligence, it’s a reward based system, you say ‘what is the best build for a raiper weapon in Dark Souls’, and it looks up faqs and spits out the language it expects you’re looking for. it doesn’t think and if it finds 12 joke posts on reddit saying something totally contradictory to how anyone would play the game, then it will give you the joke advice with no sense that that’s terrible. if the military is asking it how to deal with their rival military is going to look at those key words and gather language to repeat back and if that language it find is biased, prejudice, hostile, incredibly out of date, well, it’s not Intelligence, it doesn’t think or understand anything, it’s finding language, it’s giving you that language back. and if it’s looking at military documents to find that language, it’s going to see bias and prejudice and hostility and a desire to engage in war for profit and it’s going to regurgitate that back to them. it’s horrifying the military is allowing a language model that’s repeatedly been proven to magnify existing bias and prejudice if finds when looking for an answer is being allowed to process anything and is anywhere near the decision making process.

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        I’m with you. When we allowed trump to get elected for a second time a imply because bargain, his opponenynhad a fucking vagina, i gave up. Bought a car that is fun ton drive be and gets 10 mpg, and started actually enjoying my life while I still can.

        Fuck these fucking fuckers. They cant be bothered to vote, they don’t deserve a functioning world.

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      It doesn’t help that the people currently in charge are fucking stupid, trigger happy, and emotionally insecure.

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      Right it’s not that it’s a killer sentient machine, it’s that it’s a faulty statistical model that outputs incorrect stuff all the time and credulous morons believe it uncritically (or even automate a response based on that inherently inaccurate output).

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      The only solution is to give the firing codes to the AI. That way we don’t acccidentally use them.

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      Yeah the more these AI companies are making AI seem the scary boogeyman, the more probable it is some disaster is going to happen because people put too much stock into it. Like the school bombing.

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      A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"

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            To believe that man has any intentions behind is actions is wild. He’s easier to steer than a toddler with sugar treats. Someone told him to do it, everyone else complained, he tripled down to own the libs. He has no long term plans there, someone else might, but unless you can tell me who…we cant really assume assumptions. My guess is Putin told him to do the Greenland thing to destabilize nato

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            Occupying Greenland and the Canadian arctic was almost entirely about detecting bombers coming over the pole. Subs and ICBMs made those bases useless. But Trump could literally think it’s 1965.

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            Nah, it seems much more likely to me that he’s all about the resources there and making money from them, as well as controlling the and projecting power from the entire hemisphere around US soil.

            Ballistic missile defense may have been something he heard from someone, but I seriously doubt he makes strategic considerations and decisions like that, at least as a or the primary aspect.

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    oh my fucking god

    just dial the doomsday clock to 1am, because we’ll probably miss it anyway if it’s up to a few morons and glorified predictive text, both seemingly in “fucking kill everything” mode