• DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    To answer the question: fuck them kids.

    Anyone willing to restrict an adult’s access to vices in order to “protect children” is an evil piece of shit who shouldn’t be trusted around children or adults.

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      Actually, “fuck them kids” seems to be the answer to why they do most things these days.

      Y’all remember the good ole days when all we had to deal with was the constant terror of some deranged lunatic starting a nuclear war and killing us all?

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        3 days ago

        And I gave a senior an extra buck behind the convenience store to grab a pack for me when he was grabbing packs for the other kids that had also done the same. I remember one of them was rolling joints and I probably could have bought one of those, too, while I was there, or maybe even something harder.

        So the law didn’t stop me from getting smokes despite no machine being involved but it did give me reason to be in contact with people who could get a bunch of other things, too.

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      4 days ago

      I mean, just no. Flavored cigarettes were outlawed for this exact reason, and flavored Vapes probably should be too. They’re marketed directly towards teenagers in an effort to get young adults hooked on them for the rest of their lives. How hard is that to understand?

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        If you’re talking about the US the flavored cigarettes were banned as a backdoor way of shutting out foreign tobacco producers competing with domestic ones, had fuck all to do with protecting children.

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          I’m still importing flavored nic pouches from Sweden but one of my orders got seized by customs. Thankfully the vendor refunded me for it, but still a pain in the ass.

          Adults like flavor, too.

          Also, on the whole, isn’t nicotine consumption among kids on the downswing anyway? Take the wins where you have them. That has far more to do with making smoking un-cool (and millennials and X’er parents quitting in droves) than any sort of flavor ban.

          And a lot of us quit (smoking, at least…we pivoted our addiction to one with less damning side effects) with…drumroll please…flavored vapes.

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            Adults like flavor, too.

            Right? I still think about the “grape” and “iced tea” flavored cigarettes I was able to buy in Korea. Absolutely delicious, better buzz, and didn’t make my mouth taste like an ash tray afterwards. Can’t get anything like that in the States.

            Which, to the other commenters’ point, is probably good, because the ash-tray-mouth is a large contributor to why I no longer smoke.

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            Yep, same here. I was a pack a day for a decade, swapped from cigarettes to vape to lozenges to nothing, haven’t had any nicotine since 2017. It’s on the way out in general, as weed is legalized more widely that trend will probably hold.

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        Fuck. Them. Kids.

        If their useless parents can’t parent them, that’s the parents’ failing. Flavored vapes and flavored cigarettes absolutely should not be banned, that was the top of a slippery slope and the people who’ll gleefully go sledding down it should be openly mocked for their pathetic desires to Disnify the real world by everyone literate enough to know that the bottom of that slope is prohibition style gang wars. Nobody who wants to make something completely inaccessible to adults is interested in “protecting children”, they’re interested in controlling adults.

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      4 days ago

      Just tried a vodka soda released in freezie flavors. Red, orange, blue, and white. They taste exactly like freezies, but have a couple in a row and you will realize the difference.

      I’m surprised no pearl clutchers have started yelling yet

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        Give them time. They’re too busy harassing trans kids and trying to re-criminalize cannabis to notice right now.

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        I don’t find it too surprising really. Alcohol is over on the “good” side of the list (despite having a godawful safety profile.)