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    I don’t give a shit about Google or whatever “save the kids” bullshit y’all are on, marijuana has been sitting firmly at a kill count of zero for the entirety of recorded history despite our best efforts to make it more potent, until that changes I will continue to not give a shit. It is the psychoactive substance least deserving of restrictive regulation, there are a million more important things to worry about.

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      When, precisely, did I say anything about “marijuana will kill you”? That strawman’s got his stick so far up his own ass that even Tankie logic can’t compare.

      Your bar is “it isn’t toxic enough to kill you”? Really? That’s not why we regulate drugs. At all. Anxiety medications and SSRIs are regulated because they are mind-altering, and they’re all required to come with warnings that fucking with the brain chemistry of children has a proven tendency of causing suicidal ideation. The reason we regulate alcohol isn’t because drinking a gallon of everclear will kill you, it’s because it’s mind-altering, seriously affects your judgement, is highly addictive, habit-forming, and has long-lasting deleterious effects on the brains of children. Even amphetamines, which are prescribed to children for ADHD, are regulated because while they have medicinal properties for certain brain chemistries, but in others lead to addiction and other deleterious effects. Psilocybin and LSD are regulated because they are hallucinogenic. Fuck off with that “if it doesn’t kill you” bullshit. If something’s regulated or banned, the reason is far more likely to have fuck all to do with its LD50 than it does with the fact that “it fucks with brain chemistry in ways that are unpredictable and can have long-lasting effects from overuse”.

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            The comment you’re responding to does not contain the words “try again”, learn to read. Keeping people from dying absolutely is a major reason for regulating drugs, claiming otherwise is extremely stupid on your part. Bringing up other drugs that all have far worse short and long term effects when we’re discussing the only recreational substance on earth that can’t possibly kill you is disingenuous cowardly bullshit.

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              Did they change in a way where people suddenly didn’t know what the fuck ingesting it will do? No, not at any point in history has that happened. Try again.

              This you? Your love for the halflings’ leaf has clearly slowed your mind.

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                That was the previous comment, and you failed entirely to address the actual thing I told you to try doing again you fucking moron. Marijuana has been an intoxicant the entire time, everyone knows what it does, no excuses for ignorance. Goddamn you’re dumb.

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                  God save me from people who lose all conversational context with only one level of abstraction. Your own first comment’s claim was, and I quote: “the expectation for you to know exactly what will happen when you ingest it is completely reasonable.”.

                  Weevil made a counterpoint, which I thought was poor.

                  You pointed out that their counterpoint was poor. “Try again”

                  I said “I’ll try for them”. I gave a counterpoint demonstrating that your original assertion was unfounded and the expectation is not reasonable, because each person’s neurochemistry is different, and psychoactive drugs are renowned for having unpredictable effects for that reason.

                  Then, you pulled a non-sequitur strawman out of your ass about “kill rates”

                  I made the mistake of engaging with someone clearly responding in bad faith (or at least total confusion), and pointed out why the kill rate angle is also bullshit.

                  You claimed not to care, and that you didn’t ask for any of this.

                  I pointed out that, in fact, you did ask for this.

                  Clearly you are so baked out of your gourd that you don’t even remember why you commented in the first place, though I suppose I should have expected as much from your username. We done?

                  (If not, I am happy to provide you with the original context of why I talked about “googling it”, which seemed to confuse you as well.)

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                    Wordy+still failed=embarassing

                    Your challenge was to name any way in which marijuana has changed regarding its status as an intoxicant at any point in human history, you can’t do that and you know it so you’re deflecting desperately to avoid admitting you’re wrong. Everyone everywhere knows what marijuana does, and what it does is fuck you up without any possibility of lethal overdose or permanent damage. Other drugs are not relevant at all, every single one of them can kill you, marijuana cannot, they are entirely separate categories. Have some fucking dignity and take the L.