The two Alpha Epsilon Pi members were charged with hazing. The fraternity was booted from the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus in 2015, officials said.
I don’t really feel bad for people who sign up to be hazed
And before anyone rages at me, I do understand there are people who get actually forced into it. But situations like these, c’mon. They knew what they were getting into. Stupid prizes
They might have a vague idea that something happens, but it’s not like they’re invited by someone saying “hey want to come sit in a hot dirty basement after we throw condiments at you?”
Hazing (and lots of other kinds of abuse) exploit that uncertainty and the reluctance to back out.
Sometimes I think society gets a little full of itself with this behavior though. To me it’s like the whole “I can die for my country but can’t have a drink” argument, we police too much behavior.
I think 18 is too young to drink. I think 18 is too young to go to war and tie yourself to insane debt as well.
18 is not too young to make your choices about your friends, hobbies and what stupid shit you wanna get into like agreeing to be hazed. I guess a college or university can argue they have a right to be against it but I think by 18 you should know better and the police shouldn’t really have the right to tell you to stop this behavior if nobody is actually in physical danger.
What about mental or emotional danger? For example, sexual abuse is not an uncommon form of hazing, and it’s objectively harmful, but not necessarily physically. There are plenty of cases of people white are forcibly penetrated with objects or body parts, or required to perform degrading acts.
But that falls into people being harmed and as awful as it is and shouldn’t happen that becomes something they probably need to report. You could say the same argument about getting drunk or going hiking. People are targeted there as well but that doesn’t mean the police can just not let you engage in those activities based on that.
Statistically on top of it all more people die and are maimed driving by a massive amount, more people die in barfights and arguments on the street, more suffering comes from other sources so to say it’s a big problem just isn’t true. It comes down to people can do what they want to do
I really don’t either, but it should still be criminalized for the violent conspiratorial hierarchies it creates. The fact that it’s normalized in so many people’s minds is IMO a huge issue.
I’m gonna say it
I don’t really feel bad for people who sign up to be hazed
And before anyone rages at me, I do understand there are people who get actually forced into it. But situations like these, c’mon. They knew what they were getting into. Stupid prizes
It comes with a lot of opportunity with allums
They might have a vague idea that something happens, but it’s not like they’re invited by someone saying “hey want to come sit in a hot dirty basement after we throw condiments at you?”
Hazing (and lots of other kinds of abuse) exploit that uncertainty and the reluctance to back out.
Sometimes I think society gets a little full of itself with this behavior though. To me it’s like the whole “I can die for my country but can’t have a drink” argument, we police too much behavior.
I think 18 is too young to drink. I think 18 is too young to go to war and tie yourself to insane debt as well.
18 is not too young to make your choices about your friends, hobbies and what stupid shit you wanna get into like agreeing to be hazed. I guess a college or university can argue they have a right to be against it but I think by 18 you should know better and the police shouldn’t really have the right to tell you to stop this behavior if nobody is actually in physical danger.
What about mental or emotional danger? For example, sexual abuse is not an uncommon form of hazing, and it’s objectively harmful, but not necessarily physically. There are plenty of cases of people white are forcibly penetrated with objects or body parts, or required to perform degrading acts.
But that falls into people being harmed and as awful as it is and shouldn’t happen that becomes something they probably need to report. You could say the same argument about getting drunk or going hiking. People are targeted there as well but that doesn’t mean the police can just not let you engage in those activities based on that.
Statistically on top of it all more people die and are maimed driving by a massive amount, more people die in barfights and arguments on the street, more suffering comes from other sources so to say it’s a big problem just isn’t true. It comes down to people can do what they want to do
I really don’t either, but it should still be criminalized for the violent conspiratorial hierarchies it creates. The fact that it’s normalized in so many people’s minds is IMO a huge issue.
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