Elon Musk’s EV company is running a social-media campaign blaming European traffic deaths on red tape. Its safety claims don’t hold up, experts say, but regulators are starting to buckle.

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      2 days ago

      The best at what? Widest panel gaps? Most racist CEO? Most insufferable owners?

      Look, I know they’re generally pretty decent cars (ignoring the CEO), especially as cheap old used EVs as they’ve been around forever, but calling them the best is really dumb.

      Porsche EVs drive better. Rivians do truck things better. Hummers are, uh, larger. Chevy has the longest range truck (also the longest range EV I think?) Many vehicles charge faster. Kia has a 3 row SUV EV. Hyundai does the ioniq 5/6 that are better in a bunch of ways. Lucids are generally better in every way aside from somehow being buggier. I’m sure I missed something. Teslas aren’t really the best at anything, they’re just fine at everything.

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        People driving don’t notice panel gaps. Also neither of my teslas had them.

        There’s a lot to unload in your comparison but i feel like you’re cherry picking examples, porche does not ride better than model s, it does ride better than model 3, you’d hope so since 3 is not even half the cost.

        You compare a lot of trucks, fair enough, we haven’t even got CT here and neither of the ones you’ve listed, maybe those are truly the best cars ever made… but not ones I’ve ever even seen.

        But charge speeds? Charging non tesla costs 3x as much here. Also this whole race to charge speeds is also a flawed comparison, i charge handful of times in a year. Teslas in UK don’t require smart charger to get the low tariff home rate. The way they work, when car is charging, your whole house electricity costs 7p instead of 28 to 32p per kW. Not having to spend 1k on charger and having MORE time on this cheap rate is how my electricity bill dropped after getting an EV. I care not that my car is charging for 6 to 12 hours when I’m at home sleeping.

        I have driven hyundai, hondas, ford, mg, polestar, volvo, porche, byd, geely, xpeng, bmw and audi EVs… it is something I’m very interested in. There are quality of life that Tesla have which are still unmatched… I’ve yet to find a single car that’s comparable to my model s. Model 3, sure, there were cars which were more comfortable than it, but are a more premium price but not a single one has driven better than model s, porche was close but then the list of drawbacks with porche is long…

        As an overall package, Tesla is unbeatable, hence they are most selling by a big margin.

        As to how i drive all these cars? I live in dealership hot zone, it’s a fun activity going for 2h test drive on a weekend. We also attend car shows which have test drives too. If something happens to my model s and there is just no option for used? i would sooner downgrade to a 3 than pick any of the other cars I’ve seen/tried.

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          2 days ago

          Fair enough. They are decent vehicles. I will make one point - I said Porsches drive better, not that they ride better. Teslas are still pretty much muscle cars in the fact that they aren’t that fun to drive except for flooring it in a straight line.

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            Are we talking about the Taycan? I’ve driven the turbo s and while it was a great sporty ride. I’m not sure if it felt better than model s with adaptive air suspension… close, sure, maybe corners were better in the porche…

            But the problem is the battery range of that whole drivetrain is just rubbish, same goes for e tron which has the same base. The range was abysmal. One pedal driving was worse for sure. I dislike cars which will roll and that has put sever sore points into my drive. Comfort and interior was top notch. Same with space and even the boot is great. It is a cool car, just priced like a porche.