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I mean, it most definitely isn’t, no matter what browser you use. The old internet is dead and never coming back. the closest thing we have to it is the fediverse, but even then corpos are starting to take notice.
It’s never coming back because it never went anywhere. Fedi is cool but it’s very firmly modern web2. The older ways of webrings, forums, and personal websites, are still as present as ever. I don’t know if there are more or fewer of these, but I would guess more than ever before. Certainly more than you could ever consume in 10 lifetimes.
People come across a dead forum and think we didn’t have dead or slow forums back in 200X. That’s just normal for small, decentralised communities that aren’t all stuffed into the same noisy domain.
As someone who grew up on that old web, I am grateful that the board game hobbyist community is still using Board Game Geek. That site is just a reskin of a pile of PHPbb forums.
The older ways of webrings, forums, and personal websites, are still as present as ever. I don’t know if there are more or fewer of these, but I would guess more than ever before.
This, but it does depend on the subject matter. Certain message boards and forum communities are still very active and are the best places for like minded people to go to. Whereas other niche forums took a hit and those subjects tend to be discussed more on places like Reddit or Facebook groups.
Web-rings aren’t really a thing anymore. Sure, some websites might still have them at the bottom of the page but comon, when was the last time you used one?
I’d say the private community forums are shrinking but there are still a few areas where they thrive (not going to give away my hobbies on here but there are a few relevant subjects that have their own active message boards…many were communities on Yahoo groups that migrated to other systems.)
The replacement sites and their “communities” are flooded with bots and people from India (not necessarily a bad thing but they aren’t always the best participants. They often seem to be their for negative reasons or don’t really contribute much other than engagement for the metrics.) Reddit and Facebook are the noteworthy examples of this.
Call me cynical, but the corpos have a vested interest to keep the Fediverse around - as a fig leaf to point to when people complain about the mall-ification of the internet and the big platforms’ control of what speech is allowed on the internet. Mind, that does not mean they want it to thrive or easily accessible…
I mean, it most definitely isn’t, no matter what browser you use. The old internet is dead and never coming back. the closest thing we have to it is the fediverse, but even then corpos are starting to take notice.
It’s never coming back because it never went anywhere. Fedi is cool but it’s very firmly modern web2. The older ways of webrings, forums, and personal websites, are still as present as ever. I don’t know if there are more or fewer of these, but I would guess more than ever before. Certainly more than you could ever consume in 10 lifetimes.
People come across a dead forum and think we didn’t have dead or slow forums back in 200X. That’s just normal for small, decentralised communities that aren’t all stuffed into the same noisy domain.
As someone who grew up on that old web, I am grateful that the board game hobbyist community is still using Board Game Geek. That site is just a reskin of a pile of PHPbb forums.
This, but it does depend on the subject matter. Certain message boards and forum communities are still very active and are the best places for like minded people to go to. Whereas other niche forums took a hit and those subjects tend to be discussed more on places like Reddit or Facebook groups.
Web-rings aren’t really a thing anymore. Sure, some websites might still have them at the bottom of the page but comon, when was the last time you used one?
I’d say the private community forums are shrinking but there are still a few areas where they thrive (not going to give away my hobbies on here but there are a few relevant subjects that have their own active message boards…many were communities on Yahoo groups that migrated to other systems.)
The replacement sites and their “communities” are flooded with bots and people from India (not necessarily a bad thing but they aren’t always the best participants. They often seem to be their for negative reasons or don’t really contribute much other than engagement for the metrics.) Reddit and Facebook are the noteworthy examples of this.
Call me cynical, but the corpos have a vested interest to keep the Fediverse around - as a fig leaf to point to when people complain about the mall-ification of the internet and the big platforms’ control of what speech is allowed on the internet. Mind, that does not mean they want it to thrive or easily accessible…
There are some alternatives to internet like Yggdrasil that is smaller there is not corps…
Yggdrasil doesn’t scale to Internet size.
Sounds like another thing to recommend it.
Yes but there isn’t much bigger alternatives. Maybe hyphanet…
There can’t be that big because internet is simply very very popular
Routing there becomes unstable at already modest scale. Particularly ephemeral nodes are a problem.