I still use it, is that bad now?
I haven’t used a lot of different browsers, but when I have tried to use others I have despised them (Chrome, Edge, a few others I can’t recall).
The internet I loved still exists. It is gemini.
“It’s time to suck less. The users who left you are still waiting.”
“Fellow Kids” vibes
It’s weird to me that the only thing Mozilla says about AI in the ad, besides the fact it’s optional to use, is that people are creeped out by it.
If they only present a thing as bad, isn’t the natural next step to simply remove it? Nobody is forcing them to ship it.
two-faced mozilla is trying very much to chase the newest trends and play the both sides, showing off whichever fits them at the moment. now these chatbots are creepy and no one wants them but at the same they have to add them to firefox because they’re the future and everyone wants them. just like all that times they talked about how personalized ads are bad and then added a preselected toggle to send performance data to advertisers. or when they talk about giving users more power and choice and then implement widevine’s cdm.
they want a userbase but also want the money to keep flowing, so they’ll tell the users what they want to hear and then implement the newest fad to keep in good terms with the big tech.
There’s a switch, it’s that simple.
I’m willing to bet my ass that if they didn’t offered AI at all, half of the community would complain they’re missing the boat or something.
The world is currently rule by a bunch of pedo-oligarchs, can’t we just stop complaining about the smallest things and appreciate the fact that we still have a strong alternative to chromium and Google browser? Mozilla isn’t perfect but it isn’t the bad guy.
half of the community would complain
Nobody asked for AI in Firefox. Seriously, go look. I have.
The world is currently rule by a bunch of pedo-oligarchs
It’s very ironic that they’re all riding the same AI train. What’s to say that pedo-oligarchy isn’t The Inevitable Future too? Should Mozilla just support that?
…dammit Mozilla.
I mean, it most definitely isn’t, no matter what browser you use. The old internet is dead and never coming back. the closest thing we have to it is the fediverse, but even then corpos are starting to take notice.
The old internet is dead and never coming back
It’s never coming back because it never went anywhere. Fedi is cool but it’s very firmly modern web2. The older ways of webrings, forums, and personal websites, are still as present as ever. I don’t know if there are more or fewer of these, but I would guess more than ever before. Certainly more than you could ever consume in 10 lifetimes.
People come across a dead forum and think we didn’t have dead or slow forums back in 200X. That’s just normal for small, decentralised communities that aren’t all stuffed into the same noisy domain.
The older ways of webrings, forums, and personal websites, are still as present as ever. I don’t know if there are more or fewer of these, but I would guess more than ever before.
This, but it does depend on the subject matter. Certain message boards and forum communities are still very active and are the best places for like minded people to go to. Whereas other niche forums took a hit and those subjects tend to be discussed more on places like Reddit or Facebook groups.
Web-rings aren’t really a thing anymore. Sure, some websites might still have them at the bottom of the page but comon, when was the last time you used one?
I’d say the private community forums are shrinking but there are still a few areas where they thrive (not going to give away my hobbies on here but there are a few relevant subjects that have their own active message boards…many were communities on Yahoo groups that migrated to other systems.)
The replacement sites and their “communities” are flooded with bots and people from India (not necessarily a bad thing but they aren’t always the best participants. They often seem to be their for negative reasons or don’t really contribute much other than engagement for the metrics.) Reddit and Facebook are the noteworthy examples of this.
Call me cynical, but the corpos have a vested interest to keep the Fediverse around - as a fig leaf to point to when people complain about the mall-ification of the internet and the big platforms’ control of what speech is allowed on the internet. Mind, that does not mean they want it to thrive or easily accessible…
There are some alternatives to internet like Yggdrasil that is smaller there is not corps…
Yggdrasil doesn’t scale to Internet size.
Yes but there isn’t much bigger alternatives. Maybe hyphanet…
There can’t be that big because internet is simply very very popular
Routing there becomes unstable at already modest scale. Particularly ephemeral nodes are a problem.
Sounds like another thing to recommend it.
Cool ads, but my Firefox based browser blocked it ;)
Well I think we can identify their target demographic.
Of course I can identify it. It’s me.
Anyone got a link on PeerTube?
No, it isn’t
It’s full of captchas that spin indefinitely and half the content doesn’t load
BS. I use librewolf which adds anti fingerprinting and even it is extremely usable.
I haven’t experienced this. What websites do this?
Awesome ad. 10/10, but I already use LibreWolf, and it’s even better for privacy.
LibreWolf gives me everything Firefox promised.
Changed to LibreWolf.
Never left. Great browser and other utilities. I’d love to see them reboot Netscape Navigator!
Not netscape navigator but the mozilla suscessor still lives on in the Seamonkey Suite.
I’m on Firefox since very early days, when I was on Windows XP. I even remember Firefox had a different name in the beginning, need to lookup honestly… I think it was Phoenix maybe?
Yep, the standalone Firefox browser’s codename was Phoenix. I was also on it back in the day. From the Firefox Wikipedia page:
Firefox is the spiritual successor of Netscape Navigator, as the Mozilla community was created by Netscape in 1998, before Netscape’s acquisition by AOL.[14] Firefox was created in 2002 under the codename “Phoenix” by members of the Mozilla community who desired a standalone browser rather than the Mozilla Application Suite bundle.
It was also called Firebird for a while, that was when I started using it.
You’re right. From here :
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/firefox-name-faq.html
It was Phoenix from 0.1 to 0.5 however Phoenix bios already had Phoenix name.
It was Firebird for 0.6, 0.6.1, 0.7, 0.7.1 (for Mac) however the open source Firebird sql had Firebird name first.
Firefox started at version 0.8 and continues to be the name since.
Okay I actually love this ad!
I just wish they would take their own words into account and ship with DDG or qwant as default instead of the default Google search engine…
DDG won’t pay them what Google does to remain the default search. It’s trivially easy to change it, though.
It made me feel happy and I had to watch it twice in a row.
Also, i never left you, Firefox.
As long as Google pays most, it will stay as default search engine.
Google haunting everywhere. A horror movie scenario. 🤭 The more we try to deGoogle, the more unexpectedly it unsurfaces through different holes of the web. 🤭
Why is ddg advertising lately? They seem to be doing alright.
The search engine in the movie Mars is a legally distinct parody of DDG.
I think it’s a good sign when media isn’t copying google.
“The line needs to go up” - DDG, probably
They have profits?
