Zaka stories have been essential to justifying Israel’s all-out war against Gaza, which has killed around 30,000 Palestinians in less than five months. Speaking at the United Nations in December, Zaka deputy commander Simcha Greiniman broke down while describing alleged atrocities. He later told the same stories to a meeting of British parliamentarians.
Even when Western media outlets have questioned Landau, the inquiries were half-hearted. The Times asked Landau “about reports, attributed to him, that children had been beheaded on Oct. 7.” It reported: “Mr. Landau denied making the claim, though he acknowledged sometimes misspeaking in the immediate aftermath of the attack. What he saw himself, he said, was a small, burned body with at least part of the head missing, perhaps severed by the force of a blast. It was unclear, he added, if it was the body of teenager or someone younger.”
While the Times said the statements had been “attributed” to Landau, there is no dispute he said them. He told the stories on camera, and the clips were posted widely online. He told CNN he found “a body, of a 14, 15-year-old. Head chopped off. We were looking around for the head. Couldn’t find it.” On India’s Republic TV, Landau said of beheaded children, “Yes, this occurred. This happened.” He made similar comments to Channel 14 Israel and CBS News. There is no evidence Hamas beheaded children or babies. As The Intercept reported at the time, the Israeli military said it couldn’t confirm the claims just four days after the attack.
Media outlets, including Israeli television news programs, have debunked numerous stories about dead babies, calling them “fictional.”
Ah yes, it’s back to “Believe women - unless they are Jews”.
I’m sure you will also dismiss testimony from 10/7 survivors who witnessed women being raped by Hamas, because they don’t fit your narrative.
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Who’s that he was not in the article. New IDF recruit?
The “witness” in the article changed his story like 3 times until he saw beheaded women which provably didn’t exist. And at the moment he was supposedly seeing the rape he was talking rad selfies.
Oh yeah and his friend which was there right next to him did not corroborate the story.
Just so many rapes and zero evidence ever collected. Really sad and coincidental you’d almost think the IDF was lying to manufacture consent for Genocide. The IDF would never lie right?
Zero evidence if you ignore eyewitness evidence. I guess you think basically nobody should ever be found guilty of rape.
Furthermore, the first witness did not contradict his story. In the TikTok video he describes Hamas murders, and in the later interview he describes the same Hamas murders and goes on to describe the rapes. Those accounts are consistent.
The second witness described Hamas rapes to the AP as well as in his video.
Of course since they are Israeli, they must have served in the IDF. It’s compulsory. So if you don’t believe anyone who served in the IDF that’s equivalent to not believing Jews, a pretty typical attitude for Hamas defenders.
Yes just like the 40 beheaded babies in ovens. Here’s an article that you might fight interesting:
Scroll down to the section “Allegations of Systematic Rape”
A small preview:
This article doesn’t seriously question whether rapes occurred, even acknowledging “Sexual violence is common in warfare”. It just says that rape wasn’t part of an organized campaign, and for all I know it may be right.
It debunks many of the rape cases by pointing out there is either evidence contradicting them, or by showing that the “witnesses” already have a reputation for lying. since they were the people that claimed they saw 40 beheaded babies and women cut open. Which did not happen according to the IDF themselves.
For another list of massive inconsistencies there is also this article.
The article completely ignores one eyewitness I named above, Ron Fregle.
And it suggests that maybe Raz Cohen witnessed a rape not by Hamas, but by Palestinian civilians. Is that supposed to somehow better?
Because Ron Fregle was not even mentioned as a witness in the Screams without Words article. In fact when searching his name only irrelevant stuff comes up. Is he in any article or is it just that video?
After a million “witnesses” being exposed for making false statements you can’t seriously expect me to take these 'eyewitnesses" seriously anymore.
There are a lot of CCTV cameras in israel an somehow none of them manages to capture any rape? And there’s no forensic evidence? And all of the witnesses bring stories filled with holes or straight up lies?
Hey quick update, new article dropped from The Intercept about this.
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/
Again, the article does not claim that no rapes occurred:
It argues that the NYT violated its editorial standards, which is an entirely different question.
It also tries to cast doubt on Cohen’s eyewitness account, but I find it unpersuasive. First it points out that Cohen said “The terrorists, people from Gaza, raped girls” but only described one incident. Big deal. This was not a deposition. People often generalize, especially about shocking things. People say things like “Putin kills his political opponents” and “Trump rapes women” even if they only know about Navalny and Carroll.
It also points out that Cohen’s companion saw a woman stabbed whereas Cohen saw a woman raped and stabbed. Again, unpersuasive. They weren’t shooting a documentary, they were hiding. It’s entirely possible they saw different parts of an event, or even different women. If you read eyewitness accounts of the Parkland shooting you will find that not everyone mentions the exact same details, but that certainly doesn’t mean they are liars.