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Are you trying to say the Holocaust didnt happen? Or are you trying to say that there was a genocide of some 6 million pagans that happened in the last 100 years that nobody knows about?

UH huh

I dont think so, everything I have or will ever do is something that has been set in motion long before I was ever born.

So if I tell you to raise your hand, you either chose to raise your hand, or chose not to.

What I am arguing that it’s all predetermined, that yes which hand you choose to raise is not a choice your making but the dominio effect of the entire universe, that you choosing to use your hand as example is not a choose, that your believe in free will is not a choose as much as my lack of believe in it isn’t my choice. How you worded that, the language you used, you seeing and reply to this post, the platform your on etc etc……

This is an entirely meaningless argument. Its impossible for anybody to determine that I would chose to use my hand, or if I would chose to raise my hand.

The distinction between if I think I chose to raise my hand vs if Its really pre-determined is meaningless, I still make that choice.

Sorry, I worded that incorrectly. I guess what I am trying to say that someone who abuses another because of Schizophrenia isn’t anymore to people than someone who doesn’t have a mental illness and has still abused someone. In both cases we could do what we can to stop the abuse but doesn’t mean we are assigning blame to anyone.

In both cases we blame the person who made the choice to abuse somebody else

The largest flying animal to ever live, as far as we know, was the Quetzalcoatlus, which is estimated to have a mass up to over 400 pounds. Thats more mass than 99% of all humans, flatly disproving your claim.

If you assume that we can change density then its possible sure.

Just because theres no living bird with that mass doesn’t in any way mean its biologically impossible.

If you just reshaped a person into a bird shape, its biomechanically impossible for them to fly.

Why would you assume it would have the same density as a human?

Because otherwise you arent turning a person into a bird, you are just making a bird (or other flying mammal) with the same approximate mass as a human.

This is an arbitrary restriction you’re adding to the scenario.

Seems implied to me

Conservation of mass doesn’t require conservation of volume.

So the original post would just be “a flying bird with the same mass as a human would be a huge bird”

Which…sure

Biggest by mass, but a bird with the mass of a human cant fly (biomechanically impossible), so there needs to be magic fuckery involved.

Meaning that a shapeshifter that turns in a flying bird with the same mass as a human would likely not be as large as you think. Humans are very dense compared to birds. Assuming we keep that density, we could be smaller than some of the larger eagles or carrion birds.

So I dont believe in free will ,through a combination of experience and events in my life(most to do with leaving religion) however like most, I recognise the need for the concept of free will, as artificial as it may be

People who say this are more or less always confusing two different definitions.

Libertarian free will, being the ability to make a choice without context is obviously impossible.

What most people think of as free will “the ability to make a choice” is very obviously real.

I can chose to raise my hand, I can chose to lower it.

For example, alots people say that trauma doesn’t excuses abuse, only contextualise, it but if you have statical evidence that a large or even most of abusers have been abused/been through a traumatic event that is by defined an excuse.

People misuse the word “excuse” a lot. Like a huge amount.

People say “that is not an excuse” when what they mean is “that doesn’t make it ok.” or they say “I dont want excuses” when what they mean is “I am going to be mad no matter reasonable your actions are”

Yes, abusing somebody because you are abused is an excuse (in that it explains why), its also not an excuse (in that it doesnt make it ok).

You need to be more specific in what “excuse” means.

I’m sure it’s easier said than done, but can’t she just go to a different doctor?

Hypothetically sure. But she is on Medicaid. Getting a new primary care doctor takes a lot of effort.

All of her specialists are in the same network, and all the notes follow her around in her network. The doctor noted that she is “suicidal,” and now nobody in the network will let her get on hospice.

So in order to find a new doctor, she would effectively need to find a new network, get all new specialists, restart all the tests, go back through Medicaid to get a new doctor on her insurance.

Its not actively impossible, but its very difficult, especially for an 85 year old with Parkinson’s. And changing doctors while you have Parkinson’s somewhat managed is a bad idea, its lots of experimenting to find a treatment plan that works, and you have to basically start all that over while you loose a lot of ground.

Its way easier for her to just tell everybody to remember to not call an ambulance for her, she already asked me to help her die when she feels like her mind is too far gone, but since it would be “murder” for me to be in the same room as her while she takes the wrong pills, there isnt a lot I can do.

People get second opinions all the time

Much less common than you think,

Not my kid, but my best friends, and I babysit a lot.

Couple things you might not think about, or might overthink.

The biggest one for me was that I kept mis-gendering the kid for like a month, but I didnt realize that how I was reacting to doing so was worse than the misgendering itself.

Generally speaking, people understand that there is a transition period, you have thought of this person as a he or a her for their whole life, suddenly swapping pronouns isnt easy. If you get it wrong, thats ok, dont make a big production of it, just correct yourself, say sorry and try to do better.

I was making sure to really get across that I was sorry, and eventually I got told that it was stressing the kid out, because it was now a big thing that I got it wrong.

I learned, and they relaxed a lot when the next time I misgendered them, I just went “hes a good kid…sorry, shes a good kid” and that was that.

Yea, but it has more to do with baby boomers wrecking everything than anything else.

Fucking yeah I sure hope so. Even the scum of the earth like this deserve due process

Due process involves discovery, where the full unredacted documents would have been turned over…

Due process doesn’t mean you can just refuse to follow the law.

That is how hospice works. they won’t euthanasia they will just let you die and do theoretical pain management.

Depends on the doctor. If you get a good one, they will give you a lot of painkillers that will shorten your life significantly.

My mom died of dehydration in hospice because it was “unethical” to just give her a shot of barbituates when half her brain was no longer functioning after a stroke.

Unfortunately, end of life care is very poorly regulated (to protect people).

True.

But Hospice is generally required to get to assisted suicide tho.

Or at least, it was when my dad finally got to die.

The normal doctor wouldn’t do it, the hospital didnt allow it except for in hospice.

And then we had to fight for a week to get the hospice doctor to let him die.

Check your state law. In some states it is very illegal to ignore a properly filled out DNR, religion or no religion.

It is 100% legal to refuse medical care because of being Christian. This has been litigated to death.

Its illegal to punish somebody for refusing to provide medical care if they claim that doing so would be against their (christian) religion. This has also been litigated to death.

Also, hospice is not state assisted suicide.

No, but Hospice does include not preventing death if the patient doesnt want to go on a bunch of stuff

Hospice is comfort care, and it’s not about causing someone to die, it’s about helping someone who is terminal be more comfortable during the time they have left.

And usually letting them die when they want to.

Its how my dad finally died, He got hospice and the doctor gave him a massive overdose of Morphine (after multiple days of asking the doctor to let him die).

So you grandma is catholic.

No, her doctor is, my grandma is Atheist

Let’s be clear here.

Its pretty fucking clear

And yes, killing someone is very problematic. I admit I don’t have the answer.

I do, let people die when they want to.

Let’s not act like this is that simple.

It really is

My grandmas doctor just straight up said that killing yourself is a sin and its against his religion to help her commit a sin when she asked to go on hospice.

Not just allowed, actively pushed to do so.

The doctor she goes to did it, just decided that it was against his religion for her to decide to go on hospice care.

Even if he would allow it, in order for her to get on hospice, her doctor would have to go in front of an ethics committee and argue for her to be allowed to go on hospice. If anyone on the ethics committee objects, she isn’t allowed.

California has a right-to-die law (one of very few states that does). You are allowed to die if your doctor can prove that your disease will kill you in 6 months, that you are coherent (at the time of death, you cant sign anything beforehand for it), if you are capable of taking the suicide pills without assistance.

The doctor has to document that you made two separate distinct verbal requests, 48 hours apart. Has to document that your disease will kill you in 6 months, has to document that you are able to take the pills on your own with no assistance (too weak to die? too bad). The case is automatically reviewed (and they will try to take away the doctors license every time).

And anyone involved is allowed to stop you if they object on any grounds.

Killing yourself is a sin in most versions of Christianity, so its effectively illegal in most of the country, and any doctor that is willing to let you has to really really work to not get their license taken and them thrown in jail.

Unfortunately, a lot of people arent.

Due largely to religious bullshit (at least in america), its very very difficult to get death with dignity. My grandma has parkinsons, she wants to go on hospice before it takes her brain, but her doctor is Catholic and decided its against his religion to let her die as she wants to.

Shes trying to find a doctor who will let her, but its very very difficult. Its still considered murder in most of the country, and even most Hospice doctors wont do anything besides not resuscitate. We have to be careful to not call an ambulance for her, because if she goes to a hospital, the doctor is allowed to just ignore her DNR if thats against their religion.

Im sure that will last a whole 5 minutes

I don’t know if those claims hold water.

uh huh, im sure you dont.

Who is assaulting people associated with the SPLC again?

The federal government, who have demonstrated that they are downright eager to harrass, assault and/or execute anybody who isnt particularly fond of Nazis the KKK or christofascists in general (or anybody who embarrasses them in any way).

And the costs associated with litigation are largely attorney’s fees…

Sure, which the SPLC now has to spend defending itself against spurious lawsuits instead of helping people.

The Fed doesnt care about the cost, they can make taxpayers pay for it. They dont care if they win or lose, winning or losing isnt the point (although the courts may be corrupt enough anyways).

Thats not the point.

The point is that the DOJ now sends a bunch of people to harass and assault anybody associated with the SPLC. Doesnt matter if the DOJ looses, they dont care about that, just dragging the case out to cost the SPLC money.