• KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    the censorship is so deep and so good that the vast majority of the Chinese never find out how extensive it is, because it’s not just your WeChat, it’s ALL MEDIA.

    Have you considered it’s actually the other way around?

    The problem is the censorship is so deep and so good that the vast majority of westerners never find out how extensive it is, because it’s not just your nazi.world, it’s ALL MEDIA.

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      22 hours ago

      Yes. But like I said, I lived there for years. True, the western media gets a lot of things wrong. But china is heavily censored, there’s no way around that reality.

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        20 hours ago

        gets a lot of things wrong

        we usually call it “propaganda”. the media has the means and resources to tell the truth.

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          20 hours ago

          Yes, and if you’re getting a 100% Rosey picture of China and the CCP guess what? It’s just different propaganda. There’s good and bad things about China. For me bad things outweighed the good.

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            i never claimed to have a 100% rosey picture of china.

            its just that its miles better than the alternative championed by nations that haven’t stopped dropping bombs and economically coercing everyone else for at least a couple hundred years.

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                19 hours ago

                does living in a given country has to do with having a “rosey picture of it”, or somehow with not coercing other countries?

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                  So no. So it’s impossible for you to really make an accurate comparison. So your opinion here is literally worthless.

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                    many trump supporters are born and raised in the US. they seem to have a pretty rosey picture of their own past too, i wonder if they can accurately tell whats going on in their own country? 🤔

                    i guess lets base our opinions of cuba by what gusanos or liberals have to say about it…

                    i noticed you are the angry dude i just responded to on the other thread, so goodbye and have a nice day.

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        18 hours ago

        the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: “theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron.”

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      21 hours ago

      Are you seriously trying to say that western relations are more censored than china’s? One of those countries has locked off Internet. The other does not.

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        You’re kinda fucking stupid as shit if you don’t understand propaganda in the west is orders of magnitude worse than in China based solely on the dollar amount spent on it

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        If you’re implying that there is no substantial amount of censorship in the west you’re kidding yourself. e.g. RT/TASS, Genocide in Palestine, Leftists/Communist thought, Removing TikTok is in the talks, etc. come to mind. Not like only one side is locking off their internet.

        Also, not wanting western Nazi (social) media platforms is just self defense.

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          I’m saying the censorship is not even close to the same degree. Communists and leftists are not censored. If they were, I wouldn’t encounter them in main stream social medias.

          Removing tic tok is not censorship lmfao.

          Also, not wanting western Nazi (social) media platforms is just self defense.

          If it was only banning the platforms, I would agree.

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            Communists and leftists are not censored

            As a lib it definitely seems that way. There may be even too much amirte?

            Removing tic tok is not censorship lmfao.

            Id argue trying to remove a main stream platform with a flatter algorithm that allows for counter hegemonic content to go viral is a form of censorship, but in that case China blocking Western social Media isn’t either

            If it was only banning the platforms, I would agree.

            I like how you skipped the censoring of TASS/RT

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          Yes, there is censorship. But the information is there if you search for it. The fact that you’re typing the words “genocide in Palestine” and I am reading those words pretty clearly demonstrates that the level of censorship in the west is no where near the level of censorship in China. If the CCPs position is “Israel has a right to defend itself” you would never even know there’s a conflict in Gaza.

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            But the information is there if you search for it.

            Goes for China too if you use a VPN

            The fact that you’re typing the words “genocide in Palestine” and I am reading those words pretty clearly

            I guess you never heard of shadow banning before. That never happens in the west right?