• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    I meant they agreed to divide Poland’s area according to the lines mentioned “if something happened to it (heh)”. So stopping the attack and handing over extra parts are all according to keikaku.

    World War II certainly wasn’t “done” afterwards

    No I meant dividing Poland part from the agreement.

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      1. Why did the Soviets move in to Poland?

      2. Why not fully agree to joint-invasion in a secret section of the pact?

      You have no answers for this, again, you seem to be arguing that the Nazis should have been allowed to extend the Holocaust to all of Poland, including the areas Poland annexxed from Lithuania and Ukraine.

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        #1 Soviets probably wanted their part. And I’m not sure what benefit there would’ve been in #2 that they didn’t get this way.

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          1. No, lmao. The Soviets had little economic incentive to invade, their economy was a planned one and not one that relied on colonization like the Nazis. Get a better answer.

          2. They didn’t agree to an invasion in the pact, that’s why.

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            But invade they did and got their part. As agreed.

            Why not fully agree to joint-invasion in a secret section of the pact?

            They didn’t agree to an invasion in the pact, that’s why.

            It doesn’t really answer the question of what benefit there would’ve been to “fully agree to joint-invasion” when they got everything they wanted to out of the pact with the postponed invasion

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                They got their part, as agreed. That much is just a fact. Same for the invasion happening. As for a coordinated attack, no such thing, but joint attack in the sense that both were attacking Poland at the same time.

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                    There was no agreement to invade or divide Europe.

                    No agreement to divide Europe…?

                    Secret protocol

                    1. In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement in the areas belonging to the Baltic States (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), the northern boundary of Lithuania shall represent the boundary of the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. In this connection the interest of Lithuania in the Vilna area is recognized by each party.
                    1. In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. shall be bounded approximately by the line of the rivers Narew, Vistula, and San.

                    The question of whether the interests of both parties make desirable the maintenance of an independent Polish state and how such a state should be bounded can only be definitely determined in the course of further political developments.

                    In any event both Governments will resolve this question by means of a friendly agreement.

                    1. With regard to Southeastern Europe attention is called by the Soviet side to its interest in Bessarabia. The German side declares; its complete political disinterestedness in these areas.

                    Also this treaty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Boundary_and_Friendship_Treaty