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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel’s decision to take over Gaza City was met with resignation and defiance by Palestinians who have survived two years of war and repeated raids. Many Israelis responded with fear and anger, worried it could be a death sentence for hostages held in Gaza.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Friday that Israel would intensify its 22-month war with Hamas by taking over Gaza City, large parts of which have been destroyed by past bombardment and ground incursions.

A major ground operation is almost sure to cause more mass displacement and worsen an already catastrophic humanitarian crisis.

“What does (Israel) want from us? … There is nothing here to occupy,” said a woman in Gaza City who identified herself as Umm Youssef. “There is no life here. I have to walk every day for more than 15 minutes to get drinking water.”

Ruby Chen, a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen whose son, Itay, is a hostage held in Gaza, told The Associated Press that the decision puts the remaining hostages in danger.

“What is the plan now that is different from the last 22 months?” he said.

  • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
    520·
    3 days ago

    Al-Hayya said Hamas does not regret the Oct. 7 attacks, despite the destruction it has brought down on Gaza and its people. He denied that Hamas militants had targeted civilians during the attacks — despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary — and said the operation succeeded in its goal of bringing the Palestinian issue back to the world’s attention.

    Damn they really don’t give a shit about their own civilians, just fodder for western leftists

    The worst thing for Israel is dead Palestinian children

    The best thing for Hamas is dead Palestinian children

    • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
      102·
      2 days ago

      The worst thing for Israel is dead Palestinian children

      They want all palestinians gone

      • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
        310·
        2 days ago

        no they don’t lol

        there’s 2.2 million of them in a space the size of Manhattan, if they wanted to genocide them they could have done it 1000x over by now

        Over a span of around 100 days, members of the Tutsi ethnic group, as well as some moderate Hutu and Twa, were systematically killed by Hutu militias. While the Rwandan Constitution states that over 1 million people were killed, most scholarly estimates suggest between 500,000 and 800,000 Tutsi died, mostly men.[5][6][7] The genocide was marked by extreme violence, with victims often murdered by neighbours, and widespread sexual violence, with between 250,000 and 500,000 women raped

        and they did it mainly with machettes

        that is a genocide

        • fif-t@fedia.io
          91·
          2 days ago

          Genocide isn’t about the number of deaths. It’s about the intent.

          If you listen to what Israelis and Israeli leaders are saying, and the pattern of actions, it fits the definition of genocide.

          In previous cases of genocide, explicit statements of intent wasn’t required to call it as such (and we have them this time), as the actions and patterns of behaviour were enough to ascribe intent.

          In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

          1 Killing members of the group;

          2 Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

          3 Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

          4 Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

          5 Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          Only one of the list needs to be fulfilled in order to be considered genocide. 1, 2, and 3 have been demonstrated. With intent.

          Even if we put genocide aside, you cannot deny the ethnic cleansing aspect.

          • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
            27·
            2 days ago

            In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed

            I don’t care for any legal definition tbh, if anything trying to check boxes (with the icj quoting tweets? how low will we go :\ ) it feels like the word has been completely watered down from meaning I’m going to go door to door, house to house and kill every single one of you, I’m going to cut you into pieces, rape your wife and children then cut them into pieces, I’m going to capture you, put you and everyone you know on trains, torture you, and then gas you until not one of your people are left…to whatever Gaza is…

            Even if we put genocide aside, you cannot deny the ethnic cleansing aspect.

            There’s definitely war crimes in there from both sides, Israel is not doing itself any favours taking out an apartment building to take out 1 to 2 hamas members, that’s a bit cold, it’s why I’m surprised the palestinians haven’t risen up and killed every hamas member out there as surely they must recognise hamas are radioactive

            Hundreds join Gaza’s largest anti-Hamas protest since war began

            The protests in northern Gaza came a day after Islamic Jihad gunmen launched rockets at Israel, prompting an Israeli decision to evacuate large parts of Beit Lahia, which sparked public anger in the area.

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo

            But nothing really major since then?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Strip_anti-Hamas_protests

            I just wish this shitshow was over so we can go back to focusing on Ukraine :(

            • fif-t@fedia.io
              51·
              2 days ago

              You’re clearly blind, not because you can’t see the atrocities being committed but because you either don’t want to or don’t care to.

              I’m done trying to convince you of anything.

              • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
                22·
                2 days ago

                ok? i didn’t realise you were trying so hard, why do you feel the need to convince me of anything? we’re chatting on a forum not fighting on the front line

                im also more than capable of coming to my own opinions on things, i’ve never changed my mind after 80 left wing progressives hounded me into submission, just like 80 conservatives can’t hound me into saying that being gay is a bad thing no matter how many “science facts” they throw at me

                while i can see israel doing bad things, i know exactly how jihadi’s act since i’ve been watching and reading about them in depth since 2001, they are by far the most evil fighters in the world, nobody straps tnt to a toddler like an islamic jihadi, and i have very little sympathy for any town/city/group that harbours them

                if you watch for example

                Mosul offensive: Fighting ISIS on the frontline in Iraq

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6U3x2M3XA

                even the iraqi army struggles to determine who is a civilian and who is an islamic jihadi, because (surprise surprise) the jihadis hide in plain clothes amongst women and children

                they were even scared to let a woman with a child in worried she was a suicide bomber

                i completely understand why israel would rather stay 100 yards away and bomb from the air rather than go into a snake pit

                so my question is where is hamas and where are the palestinians?

                • fif-t@fedia.io
                  32·
                  2 days ago

                  Hamas is an idea. Even if every single Hamas fighter were magically killed instantly, Hamas 2 would pop up because of what Israel has done and continues to do. Hamas itself doesn’t really matter.

                  Also lumping together Iraqi jihadis (as you call them) with Palestinians and their liberation resistance movement is kinda racist. They’re not the same.

                  For the record I do not advocate for Hamas, nor do I support their actions but their existence is inevitable.

                  The real question you should be asking is why is there a fascist ethnostate in the first place? And why is it propped up by Western countries?

                  • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
                    1·
                    14 hours ago

                    Also lumping together Iraqi jihadis (as you call them) with Palestinians and their liberation resistance movement is kinda racist.

                    lol all Jihadi’s look the same to me🤣

                    And why is it propped up by Western countries

                    It’s not? The economy of Israel is incredible, it’s a true 1st world western economy surrounded by awful trillion dollar islamic authoritarian petro-states and awful backwards islamic hellholes, America would have already invaded and stuck a starbucks, mcdonalds and giant american flag right in the middle of Gaza if it was next to it

            • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
              62·
              2 days ago

              You don’t care about the legal definition because you are a savage who don’t believe in international laws and civilized societies

              You claim to be against extremism while defending jewish extremism

        • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          2 days ago

          Learn the definition of genocide first instead of embarassing your self. Why netenyahu call the west bank as judea when judea was destroyed thousands of year ago? Why they build settlements in palestinians lands, why they stsrve gazans, why did he compare all gazans to amalek? Why israel destroy all palestinians historical sites? Why does honest israelis ask palestinians to live in egypt?