I am genuinely trying to get better at art. I’m not there yet (likely never will be), the lying machine is still better than me.
The context:
This is my sketch.
And this is what the ai output.
I like to think I poured my heart and soul into it. I know there are people who will tell me that I’m terrible for using ai at all. I’m also sorry if this is the wrong community to ask this question (ask reddit would delete my post instantly if I tried to post there).
Again, is this slop? I am not an artist. I drive a forklift real good, that’s my skillset. So if I were to use the ai upscaled version for my book, well, I’m asking for opinions.
Ok, let’s train the data on millions of credit cards. It isn’t just mine. Am I fine with sharing the weighted statistical result? Sure.
And like anything else, a sale to this person is never a loss to another artist. It doesn’t work that way. Which is why I said they need to say they used digital AI tools, and not lie and said they didn’t.
I will commsion an artist, but if it’s digital I wouldn’t.
And like the guitar analogy, anything made by AI is not a copy of the original, see credit card example above.
The credit card was to make you understand that even though no one owns math that doesn’t mean that all information should be free. You’re refusing to tell me your credit card numbers or even what you do for a living, this proving that you’re either a hypocrite or don’t truly believe that ALL information should be free.
Someone paying for art from someone who’s not an artist is definitely a loss for the artist who would have gotten hired instead. The fact that you’re even refusing to acknowledge this simple fact proves just how up your own ass you are.
Then don’t commission digital art, completely your prerogative, but the artist that does digital art is an artist, the person prompting an LLM is not. If you use digital art to make a profit you should have the rights for it, and a person who prompted an LLM can’t because they don’t own the training data, nor any derivation from it.
For the music, go and record chunks from several different music to see if you won’t get the same result, which is essentially what an LLM is doing with other people’s art.
No, you are changing the rules: it is not my credit card number, it is a mathematical representation. It isnt my art, it is a conglomeration of all art.
I am 100 percent behind the idea that if you make a drawing, it is yours. Not mine. But if I sketch a similar one based on yours because I saw it, this new result is mine.
The information is free, the original is also intact.
Also, a AI made art is not going to stop someone from buying from some one else. I buy from artists I know that have something so say. A different artist AI or not has no influence on my purchase from the ones I like.
Again, the credit card number was to show you that both the math is math and the information is free are terrible arguments, which you clearly understood despite trying to avoid accepting it.
Let me introduce you to a new word plagiarism, copying someone else’s art is not acceptable.
Again, give me your credit card number, if information is free you should have no issue with this. But you do, because you clearly recognize that information can have value.
Except it does, go chat with any artist out there and you will be told how their commission work dropped, how they were fired, and even if they themselves were not affected they certainly know someone who has.
You are you, but someone writing a book and in need of a cover, someone wanting concept art for a game, someone with a YouTube channel in need of a logo/avatar, or many other examples don’t care about what the artist have to say, they just need a piece of art to be a part of the thing they’re trying to sell. Artists can’t live by selling art to the random person who might like what they have to say, the vast majority of artists make a living doing commission work or hired at a company to produce art for them. Now the art that these people have produced has been misappropriated and used in ways which they gave no consent for, and that way is making them lose on jobs and affecting their livelihood.
You’re either a troll or just plain stupid, regardless it’s clear to me that it’s pointless keeping this up. We’ve gone in circles around everything, you claim information should be free but refuse to give away your information, that math is math but refuse to tell me numbers that have meaning to you, that digital artists are not artists but refuse to elaborate. You clearly don’t know any artist in real life, but I hope whatever it is you do for a living is the next thing LLMs starts to imitate, maybe then you will understand that the society we live in doesn’t care about the quality of the thing, but rather the cost and speed.