I think I actually believe him when he says its soul-sucking. He’s obviously missing a lot of perspective on what he calls ‘real jobs’, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an emotional toll from what amounts to being a clown whose paycheck is derived from the whims of literally faceless masses
I agree. The algorithm wants you constantly putting out annoying shit to keep their audience hooked. At first you are creative! Monetizing your hobby! Soon you have a hole on your resume, a demanding schedule, a soulless algo, a capricious audience you must grow… Yeah I think I’d take corporate life over being a streamer or whatever.
Its even eaten traditional creative careers. Writers and artists must be online content creators above all else.
You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.
Yeah, obviously there are worse jobs and steamers who love what they do, but I can’t think of a better way to ruin any enjoyment I had for gaming.
Mad respect for the ones who are on for 10 hours every day of the week for years straight, and somehow still manage to be healthy and have a family. I couldn’t do it.
Honestly it goes deeper than that. I’m part of a very small streamer community and the two biggest points of exhaustion are actually just community management and the platforms themselves.
You can be having an absolute blast playing games, bullshitting with chat, whatever else, and then ONE person can come in and ruin the entire vibe. The two big ones are people “um, ackshually"ing a joke you make or someone deciding to trauma dump into a 10+ person conversation to fish for compliments. The amount of times one of the streamers is vibing, making jokes, chat is blowing up and someone comes in like” I hate myself I want to die please compliment me and make me feel better while you’re live :'(" is insane. Just zero self awareness and you can’t just ignore someone writing what sounds like the first half of a suicide note so suddenly you flip from entertainer to therapist. For larger streamers this comes in the form of random groups of people deciding they don’t just hate you but actively want to sabotage you through stream sniping, harassment, doxxing, etc…
The platforms are just as bad. Having to constantly fear that any accident in a game gets you banned is just such a suffocating experience. This is worse in games with open mics where it’s your responsibility to police, mute, whatever else the random outbursts of hate speech and slurs. Heaven forbid you’re playing a game that suddenly surprises you with nudity or something else and you’re left wondering if you’re gonna get flagged by TOS because it arbitrarily wasn’t artistic enough. Lord have mercy on your soul if you stream something from Nintendo - - who seemingly just rolls a die once a month to decide which random community built around their games they want to Thanos snap out of existence.
They can stop working in entertainment, it’s not like streamers are bound to a chair with a rope.
That’s not what this is about. This is about there being a psychological strain.
I can assure you that there is a lot more psychological and physical strain in monotonous physical work. A month in a factory made me appreciate my desk job in IT like nothing else in the world. Obviously burn out exists and destroys your motivation and ability to do things.
It’s different. You shouldn’t compare suffering.
If someone has their leg broken with bone sticking out and another person who fell and now has a broken skin on their hands I should assume they feel more or less the same and shouldn’t compare?
That’s not an apt comparison as we are comparing fundamentally different suffering/challenges.
So we shouldn’t compare some but should compare other types of suffering?
I mean there are far more challenging and demading types of work that don’t require physical labour. Streeming/being youtube personality is one of the least demanding and challenging work there is.
Yeah, they’re not forced to stay in frame and shocked with a shock collar if they move or anything.
I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism. If you left out the “in the same way” as well.
Performative politics is all the rage.
Hasan is a socialist at random. He’s utterly philosophically illiterate, so his positions are a flip of the coin. You might say, “fine, let’s use that,” and I agree - as long as you don’t lose sight of the fact that he’s a narcissistic grifter.
In all seriousness, you can’t entrust political significance to character-deficient, uneducated dingdongs with no commitment to reality.
Wow it’s almost like it’s impossible to have 100% consistency across 12 hours a day of talking…
He’s consistenty a fucking tool in certain opinions and continues to double-down on the worst takes. Also an animal abuser.
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Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
Shock: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-educator-et-300 Vibration: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300 https://www.reedog.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
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TL:DR; Please don’t be angry and don’t go full Trump supporter on me and ignore all of this cause you don’t believe that it’s true. Help me see the truth. If you did see these collar pics then tell me what is it I’m not seeing myself that proves it’s a vibration only collar and not a shock one without prongs? Tell me and I’ll listen. Please, just refute the hard evidence. I WANT to believe you.
If you still need a reason for me to care so much: Autism.
The video of the incident looks like what people says that happened, looks like he reached his hand somewhere (supposedly the remote) and Kaya complains. It could be a coincidence of course, and it doesn’t help that Hasan doesn’t show the collar immediately after (although understandable, not a realistic demand since he has no reasons, it would be great if he did but in the video you linked there didn’t seem to be anyone accusing Hasan from shocking Kaya, looks like that came later). Because of this we can only speculate.
The debunk video doesn’t debunk anything, he acknowledges that people are looking at his supposedly vibration only collar but he doesn’t acknowledge exactly WHY they’re doing it (aside from right grifter assholes wanting to smear him), he doesn’t actually stop and debunk it. The reason people points at the collar is because it looks just like the vibration version without the prongs. He missed an unrealistic opportunity to proof himself when he did not show the collar when it happened (again, understandable), and he lost a very realistic opportunity in this debunk video by not showing it again but in more detail to prove it’s not a shock version. I mean, he doesn’t call it “modded shock into vibration only collar”, he claims that’s just a vibration collar, nothing else. I can’t stress enough how bad it is that he doesn’t show the collar in more detail, if he wanted to end all of this he would’ve just zoomed the fuck into it and shut everyone up, It’s easier to believe that he’s hiding something that believing he is dumb. It is very suspicious. You can always say he was nervous but he’s probably got plenty of time to plan the debunk.
(This is only speculation you can skip this paragraph) In the video he also claims that Kaya hurt herself. That implies she has a vibration collar on but he didn’t use it, so he can’t really go “I used a collar but it only vibrates” since that would mean he lied, and if he lies then how is anyone supposed to trust him? If he did we’d be in a “alt right moving goalposts” like situation.
I don’t need to see the one loving his dog. I mean “He loves Kaya” is sadly not a valid proof that he didn’t shock her unlike actual pictures of the collar, and three things can be true at the same time:
- He loves Kaya;
- He shocked Kaya;
- Stinky (literally) Asmnogold-like people are using it as an excuse to shit on him and exaggerate on what happened.
And the best way to judge a situation is by keeping it cool. Getting to know Hasan better is sadly not a good way of thinking things calmly and subjectively the same way falling into the ragebait shit right wing grifters upload would not be ideal.
But I’m not here to judge if Hasan is a dog abuser, I’m here ONLY to judge if he shocked her, for my own sanity, because I’m seeing all this evidence pointing out he did it yet people don’t seem to acknowledge it, similar to how right wing nutjobs won’t understand cheeto man is a pedofile rapist despite all of the evidence, it’s like they can’t see the evidence or maybe they do and they don’t care because “the left only wants to shit on him”. The equivalent in this situation would be Hasan fans not caring Kaya got shocked because “the right only wants to shit on him” (which is true, but that doesn’t justify not calling him out on what he did IF he did it), don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT saying shocking a dog so it doesn’t move is on the same level of a super mega pedophile ring, and justifying the former is much, MUCH better than the latter, I’m just trying to get the point across that Trump’s fans will either justify whatever he does or blindly believe everything he says because they’re out of touch fanatics. Maybe they genuinely believe he didn’t diddle the kiddlers. Maybe they just don’t bother to either look at it or to exist in the same reality we do, probably because they like the guy. I don’t want to believe Hasan fans are on the same realm of ignoring reality and evidence because “I like him he would never”. This whole situation feels the same to me. Look at that debunk video, it proofs my point, Hasan glares over the issue and explains people hating him is making stuff up to hate on him, but he never addresses the actual stuff being said on the videos which only makes me think he can’t and only hopes his fans will blindly defend him, then you go and link it as if it does prove something.
But lets give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he uses a modded shock collar so it only shakes. Why not say that? What if he just has a vibration collar that looks EXACTLY like the shock one? Like a knock off or something. Just show the model online, and again, the collar itself closely.
If you read this far, please. I IMPLORE you to look at the videos of the people comparing the pictures on his streams showing the collar with the images on the collars site I linked, don’t just assume that you won’t get anything from it like a Trump supporter wouldn’t look at the Epstein files. Yes, these people probably don’t give a flying FUCK about Kaya, but that’s beyond the point here, the point is if he shocked her. The pics with the collar he showed make it clear (at least to me) it’s then shock version without prongs. They can’t be fake cause they’re taken from his stream and Hasan doesn’t even claim them to be fake, he just doesn’t claim anything, the only thing preventing you from looking at and comparing them would be blind trust.
All I want you to do is compare the collar Hasan shows with the pictures of the collars on the websites and tell me why that is not a shock version with prongs removed. If you don’t want to do it cause you think Hasan is innocent, think of all the alt right nutjobs that won’t look at the Epstein files because Trump is “innocent” so there’s no point (not saying shocking a dog is as bad as mass child rape, just pointing out how fanaticism clouds people’s judgement). Keep your mind open and I will keep mine, but refute the hard evidence, refute it. Don’t change the subject or say things like “Nu uh he loves Kaya”, that’s not evidence, neither is “I like him he would never”.
Here’s a video from a professional dog trainer, who claims he didn’t know Hasan prior, analyzing the incident and the device. He concluded that it wasn’t a shock- but a vibration-collar (or used as such). He did not see any misconduct from Hasan. I read somewhere the trainer was massively harassed after the video.
Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
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Now that’s what I’d expect from a Hasan fan, defending accusations of shocking his dog by deflecting to rant about Destiny.
Also nice cherry pick. Gee, I wonder why you didn’t go with something more recent…
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Oops, guess we know why you chose something from a year ago instead of this…
Who is he?
Hasan Piker, a left wing political commentator on the internet, who’s popular among the 18-35 set
under attack by his closest aligning party, because he is threatening right wing democrats position, and gamesmanship of the vote
Are you implying Hasan is aligned in any way with the Democrats?
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest yet they are spending their influence in atacking the left pull of their base. and Hasan is the attackable face of this pressure, as oppose to doing their fucking job in fighting tyranny.
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest
So what? They’re still extremely far away and their ideology (Liberalism) is completely incompatible with Hasan’s (Marxist-Leninism).
There is 0 incentive for Democrats to include someone like Hasan in their coalition.
ok?
so what?
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
it is clear that democrats want the same things as republicans, but are not as brazen. they don’t want to interface with a youtuber, cool, fine, whatever, i don’t really care.
but they ignore the progressive pull at their own peril. it is already proved that they no longer have the leverage to demand a conservative democrat as a candidate and actually win elections.
steamers when their job is to play video games for a few hours and make 1000s of dollars 😭
I think there is a lot to be said for the emotional load someone like Hasan deals with. We are talking thousands of death threats and vitriol, swatting, psyops, debate bros etc etc. The soul sucking is mental and different, not going to assume this was him saying he has it harder like this out of context meme is trying to portray.
The fuck he does. He’s a literal multimillionaire who grifts for a living from the comfort of his own home. You think someone like him goes on Twitter or Reddit and reads what people say about him? He barely interacts with the public outside of his streams, he has one of the most stress free jobs in the world. Emotional load my ass, the only pressure he has is to keep up his persona and to grow his audience which is a very privileged position to be in.
Tell me you don’t watch him without telling me you don’t watch him.
I have a hard time believing that this guy is living some hellish, extremely stressful life because he voluntarily chose to make a career out of being a professional provocateur from the comfort of his own home.
You try receiving thousands of death threats and hate messages every single day and try not to let it get to you. It’s not that cut and dry.
But again, he does this of his own choosing. If it was bad as you say it is then there’s nothing stopping him from retiring or switching to normal job. He chooses to do this anyway because the money is good and he probably enjoys it. We also have to consider that he’s professional ragebaiter, he knows what he’s doing and people like him know how to avoid and tune out criticism and harassment.
Keep in mind, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m just saying that he’s not shouldering the weight of the world from being a professional political steamer like people here are making out to be.
He has said many times that the main thing driving him is wanting a better America for the working class, that’s all he cares about. He has very strong morals and principles and will always speak up for what he believes is right, that is why I genuinely enjoy his content. I can relate a lot to that. I think people that criticize him generally look at his content through a much more cynical lens than is the reality of the messages he is delivering.
Stop giving fuckheads attention. It’s the only way we can prevent further idiocracy. Attention focus matters.
“look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”
there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.
when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.
remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!
etc.
i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.
if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.
https://youtu.be/GIIQQqnPVuw?t=3m49s He said democrats have to earn your vote, so the harm reduction argument isn’t valid. The democrats didn’t earn my vote so I didn’t vote. Now Trump killed 2 people, started a war, cut all solar programs, ruined our trade negotiations, destroyed the fda, destroyed usaid, destroyed the department of education, pulled out of the climate accord, destroyed research for being “woke,” but I mean hey the democrats didn’t earn my vote so I was fully justified not voting I think.
Did you go out and vote for any other candidates (local, senators, congressmen, school board?) or did you just skip voting all together?
Because if you did skip voting all together then yes it is 100% your own fault. Because I’m sure as shit he didn’t say “don’t vote”, he just said Democrats need to earn your vote. You’re the fuck weed who decided not to.
I’m a fucking Bernie bro and I was not on board with Hillary I was not on board with Kamala, but I sure as fuck went out and voted for both of them because I knew what the hell was coming.
This damage was self-inflicted. And every person who puts up their hand says, “not me I didn’t do this, I stayed home and didn’t vote cause both candidates sucked” is part of the problem and not any part of the solution. You don’t like the candidates? Then show up to the primaries and caucuses, get signs and put them in your lawn and support the candidates you want. Don’t just sit at home and post on Facebook how “everything sucks and it’s not my fault”.
I am saying I sucked it up and voted for kamala despite hassan explicity saying it was okay to not vote for the lesser of 2 evils “especially this time.” If there was ever a time in history to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, this was it. Hassan either pretends to or actually doesn’t realize how much America got shafted by trump, and how much WORSE trump would be for hamas.
I agree with everything you’re saying buuuuuuuuuuut also
the dude lives in a mansion in LA (which his excuse for was that he has a large family, someone better tell all the large families in my single-family suburban neighborhood that they should upsize ASAP) and plays down the importance of mutual aid. He’s a grifter and the left should be demanding better.
MeansTV is great and less braindead-Twitch-stream-formatted
Yeah this is ridiculous criticism. If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous. Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly? That he takes care of his family? Seems like ad hominem attacks to avoid having to engage with what he’s saying.
If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous.
Not by me.
Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly?
That he’s rich. And a grifter, which I already said.
And a grifter, which I already said.
Cool unsubstantiated opinion.
He’s a “”“socialist”“” living in a mansion in LA.
We may have different definitions of “substantiated”.
Cool now look up the definition of a “grift” and explain how it applies.
Yeah if you want to be pedantic he may not strictly fit the dictionary definition:
Someone who grifts is a thief, but of a particular sort: they illegally obtain money or property by means of cleverness or deceit, and do not usually resort to physical force or violence. A grifter might be a pickpocket, a crooked gambler, a scammer, or a con artist.
But generally language used in regular conversation, like this, is colloquial, not formal. And he firmly fits the colloquial use of the term, as described by urbandictionary:
A money-making operation that is either dishonest and takes advantage of people, or is simply a cause of annoyance or scorn to those who pay. Typically, a grift is a source of easy money to whoever runs it.
He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country. He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.
He takes advantage of people by selling them the false image of him as a progressive / socialist, when in fact he only is to the extent that it benefits him.
It is a source of easy money to him.
He’s what you call a “champagne socialist”. I have no respect for such people and don’t think anyone else should either.
Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.
Taking care of my family by having a multi million dollar mansion fancy clothes a sports car and a Rolex, amen brother. I don’t expect someone to live like a pauper but wtf give 2 million to red cross and you’ve literally saved like 1000 peoples lives.
If my body wasn’t so busted I would prefer general labor. Over almost any desk job. I hate it. I don’t have a chat section. At least with general labor i felt like i actually did something of worth at the end of the day.
I used to make insulation and now I look after linux servers. I don’t agree with lol
Omg you’re that guy who came in to argue with me about liberalism in the other thread, it makes complete sense that you’re a “fuck Hasan” guy. Are you an Asmongold fan?
Dunno about him, but I am. What about it?
Thanks for responding and for your honesty. I’m really curious about a few things, I hope you don’t mind if I ask you some questions and maybe we can chat a little? I’m not interested in judging you or shaming you or anything like that, but I would love to understand you.
- What got you into watching Asmongold?
- Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?
- What are your political/ideological positions/beliefs now?
What got you into watching Asmongold?
He’s just funny. Also I don’t like modern trends in modern gaming and shows, and he’s not afraid to call them out and ridicule them.
Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?
I was always pro free market and anti communism. It didn’t change at all. I’d say I was against any immigration barriers before watching him, but I shifted towards moderate barriers (working people only, instant deportation for crime) but that wasn’t just only his influence.
I tried watching Hasan before, but for someone who grew up in powerty in broken post communist economy, his pro communist stance is just pure cringe to me.
Additionaly Asmon sometimes tells about his life hacks and ways to cheat the system which is all too familiar considering my childhood life. I sort of identify with him, maybe?
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I don’t hitch my opinions to streamers in any way.
Neither do I - actually, kind of the opposite! Hasan represents a voice which spreads many of my my long-held beliefs to millions of people. I only started watching him pretty recently, after hearing a bunch of criticism and deciding to check him out myself and being pleasantly surprised, but I’ve been far-left since I was a teenager. I disagree with him on many issues, and I’ve even argued with him on his stream. I’ve seen him actually get closer to my beliefs over time, which is very nice to see.
I don’t remember you but I bet you were saying dumb shit
I was saying what I always say - that capitalism inevitably leads to fascism and that liberalism is a shield to capitalism.
How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?
Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop.
Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining.
The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed.
So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups.
To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked.
That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.
But can't capitalism can be reformed?
While, of course, some laws to reform capitalism can be passed, and would definitely alleviate the worst harm caused, over the long term, capitalism cannot be reformed.
Any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism.
The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century America.
But the Soviet Union was really oppressive!
Yeah, the soviet union had a lot of problems, Stalin was a psycho. Let’s not do that, but we can do socialism using a bottom-up, direct democratic, consensus based decision making approach, rather than a top-down, centralized state. We can learn from the mistakes of the past.
I’d encourage you to check out an anarchist FAQ to learn more - If you haven’t heard much about anarchism before, you probably have some misconceptions about it, so I encourage you to watch the Q&Anarchy video series by Thought Slime or have a look through an Anarchist FAQ, because it’s almost definitely nothing like what you think.
I personally believe that it’s the most coherent philosophy which adequately explains and addresses all of the problems which plague our society, and which holds the most promise for a path out of the inevitable cycle of the continuous rise and fall of fascism that capitalism makes inevitable.
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I don’t remember, I just remember your username
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Haha, sorry you feel that way! I’m just doing everything I can to fight for the working class, and working class solidarity is important to me. Much love, solidarity forever!
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Nah he’s right. I’m in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can’t even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who’s effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.
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The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.
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He’s also talking specifically about streaming which is the absolute lowest common denominator of online content. Like people just flip on OBS and record themselves playing games or eating or reacting to other content, literally just things they would be doing anyways even if they weren’t recording. No one is owed the ability to make money streaming and it’s hard to find a “real job” that provides less value to society than streaming.
- The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.
I mean, debatable, hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings, then he would have to live for another 50 years just to make it into his 80s which would come out to about $20k/year not considering investments or inflation or anything. So not realistically enough to retire on.
Even if we assume he can retire to a life of luxury, does it being voluntary mean it can’t be a soul sucking? Like my country has a good benefits program and I’m disabled, so I could live the rest of my life on benefits if I wanted to, does that mean I can’t complain about my job and that it can’t be soul destroying?
The effort of actual streaming is only part of the job and it’s still tough to engage with people and be entertaining for hours and hours every day. Like have you not been in a social situation where you have to put on airs? It’s exhausting.
hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings
Bro please Hasan was in the top 5 most hours watched on Twitch last year. Twitch leaks from 2021 (5 years ago when he was “smaller”) show he made $3 million just from ads, not even counting any other sponsorships or deals he had.
And he’s got you out here thinking that he “might, just maybe, if we really stretch belief” have $1 million total net worth. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.
This is exactly why streaming is so disgusting. You’re carrying water for a guy who is a multi multi millionaire because you have a parasocial relationship with him and think he’s your friend.
AFAIK he doesn’t run AD’s. Watching him for a year now. I’ve never seen any sponsored content. Maybe he gets money from the politicians he interviews on stream but I doubt it. He only invites those who he has a serious interest in growing their platform. He doesn’t seem to sell out. He regularly mentions his work is solely sponsored by his viewers. I don’t claim that he isn’t a multi millionaire but I don’t see how this invalidates his positions or work.
Okay, firstly I need you to understand I have not watched a single second of a Hassan stream and basically everything I know about him I have learned involuntarily. So your personal attacks about my “parasocial relationship” are entirely unfounded.
But again as I said. Even if he does have enough to retire in luxury why does that mean his job can’t be would destroying? Hassan especially receives an enormous amount of death threats, hate and harassment and streaming in general is very draining.
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