• dovah@lemmy.world
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    I believe AWS has already tried getting ahead of this by introducing their EU Sovereign Cloud offering. I can imagine regulators would still allow something like this, but time will tell.

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      Yeah that’s bullshit, Microsoft already terrified that that means shit for data sovereignty as the US government can access that data whenever they want, even when it’s in Europe, even when it’s government data.

      So fuck those solutions, and any sovereignty claims on that site are just plain lies. The data is stored in Europe, but that is a mere technicality as the US government can view it at any moment they want

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    I really hope Canada follows suit, after Microsoft pulled that shit with the international criminal court they clearly cannot be trusted.

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      I hope so too.

      In other news:

      The Ontario government is welcoming a multi-billion-dollar investment from Microsoft, as part of the company’s previously announced $19 billion commitment to Canada. Through this investment, Microsoft is expanding its cloud and artificial intelligence (AI) infrastructure across Ontario, significantly scaling up the province’s computing capability while reinforcing Ontario’s position as a leader in the tech and digital economy. […]

      This expansion in Ontario will further bolster the reliability of its data infrastructure to strengthen the province’s domestic data capacity as more businesses begin to adopt and scale AI technologies. Through the company’s Community-First approach, Microsoft will also prioritize alignment with regional economic priorities, including advancing Ontario’s investment readiness and competitiveness, fostering the conditions for job creation and apprenticeships and laying the foundation for advanced AI innovation. (Apr 7, '26)

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      Canada can’t at the moment, and its government has continued becoming more and more entrenched in US tech throughout 2025 and 2026. So, prepare to be disappointed. Most Canadians enjoyed the lip-service a bit, but didn’t really care – even things like the “Buy Local” and travel stuff is easing off already, even as the USA continues down its tech oligarch backed authoritarian villain arch.

      BC for example, is likely losing its last Canadian-backend financial institution. The financial system regulators, and all the banks/credit unions, are 100% captured by US tech. Wealthsimple’s growing like crazy, built as a cloud-first business within US tech ecosystems, with deep ties to companies like Oracle and Amazon, investing heavily in San Fran tech startups etc. If you had a Data sovereignty type law come in, the entire financial sector, a “critical industry”, would disappear.

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    I mean they are untrustworthy. They have to share any data they have with the us no matter where it is if asked. These safeguards of the data must be in our country means nothing.

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    Europe needs to invest in proper cloud infrastructure. The only European cloud provider that is even remotely comparable to the big 3 is Scaleway, and they’re still like 10 years behind in terms of features.

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      This is doing that. When you are not allowed to use foreign cloud providers, you have to use local ones. So they get business and are able to develop new features.

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    Cool!

    Let me know when it’s done, because so far Palantir etc are involved in the EU’s plans.

    I don’t want the US and the EU to be against each other. I want the EU to realize that the US is being controlled by bad actors and to save us the way that the US saved Germany in 1945. As a citizen, I beg of you to check my logic.

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        It was. I wasn’t suggesting that the Soviet Union and other Allied Powers shouldn’t be included.

        I am suggesting that there is a major failure currently and many Americans are hoping that the EU can support some kind of fix. I’m not even suggesting it is realistic, but we have no other options.

        The EU is welcome to share that fix with the Soviet Union (…).

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          I mean there are other options. But people are lazy and hope others well save them.

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      US saved Germany in 1945

      Lol. 8 out of 10 nazi casualties were inflicted by the Soviets. That’s the conservative estimate

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        The point of your rebuttal is a dumbed-down version of events. The US and the Soviets both had a part.

        Regardless, neither position changes the point of the post. I’d also hope the EU helps Russia when they fall (again).

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          I mean, sure, but if you are saying that rebuttal is a dumbed-down version of events - what the hell is your comment that he is replying to? “US saved Germany” is way more dumbed down.

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          Yes America who sat back and came in at the end all refreshed and “saved” everyone.

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            Hey, that’s not fair! They also nuked 2 civilian cities just to prove their might. One of the biggest war crimes in history for which nobody was punished.

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          Yes, they both had a part, and the USSR’s part was significantly more important. But I know that might get in the way of your American exceptionalism fantasy.

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              Yes, this has been my main account for the last year. It’s cute that you noticed.

              What do your astute analysis skills tell you about Europe’s collective Stockholm Syndrome that the US “saved” them from the nazis?

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    Except for the Dutch where the government outsourced the Digid - our national ID and most personal information - to an American firm. Despite concerns from the parliament.

    But the new PM is a lapdog to Trump because his mentor and former PM Rutte, is so far up Trump’s ass, he can cut his tonsils.

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      I do agree with most of this, but calling Rutte the mentor of Jetten is simply not true.

      Most of what you say is, though.

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      Yeah it sucks, but I’m happy with my vote for Barbara Kathmann. She is doing some great work to spread more awareness and trying to stop it.

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    Good. Finland just last year spent some 600 million euros on new AI system running on AWS, built by a USA company, that, once it’s completed, will handle social insurance related applications. If you need something like unemployment benefits, disability/sickness related benefits, etc. all the necessary information required to handle your application will be handed to that system.

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        Haven’t heard anything about that. I think they finalized the deal last year. Election system plan canceled, though.

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          At least the elections won’t get stolen through American interference. But yeah, I think it passed but the justice system has halted it because it isn’t funny legal as worded, or something of such is what I last remember.

          Hopefully. Though, currently the system is so underfunded the AI might actually get more people assistance, but I’d rather it be delayed until these stupid right wing parties can be voted out. And now the train line after the Sello stop is getting closed down for the whole freaking summer for the dumbest train line expansion project for Orpo.

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    Something the rest of the planet should get behind for all the correct governance and security reasons. Palantir meanwhile has somehow (stupidly) been approved for continuation here in the UK.

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      The world was lazy and how we let America take over our tech is just stupid. We should have digital soveeinty or at the very least other countries involved so we can st least pivot. But no we just let the Americans come in buy every competing company and call it good.

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      It seems like it’ll be included, it’s affecting all services storing government and healthcare data. Of course, it doesn’t affect private companies so Salesforce will still probably be used elsewhere. Just not in government. The same can be said about other SaaS companies like Cloudflare, Atlassian, and ServiceNow.

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    Who do we actually trust?

    Granted, these companies controlling the board of pieces, and the pieces of the board, it is alarming, but without hard and I mean HARD safeguards to this data via legislation we are cooked.