• stoly@lemmy.world
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    This is stupid. You have to use so much fucking gas to farm those fields. It just adds to the load.

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      And you simply end up buying more gas because it’s less efficient if your car doesn’t take it. So demand will actually increase. Which makes sense when you realize whose in charge.

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        How about all those people who paid extra for the cars that burn E85… To get less mpg

        Financial literacy is very not common in government… Even less so with the population

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          Maybe the goal of using E85 was not to make a car get better fuel economy, but instead to reduce dependence on foreign oil, reduce the carbon footprint from cars, and reduce the cost per mile to run the car?

          I don’t know if E85 actually does those things in the long run (there is some debate based on studies that don’t take the whole lifecycle of the car and it’s fuel into account) but calling an option stupid based on on a goal it was never intended to meet seems silly.

          Also, in E85 cars, the main differences are that the rubber components are made from a different material that the fuel doesn’t corrode, and they have an engine computer that can adjust the engine to run on E85. They work perfectly fine with regular fuel as well.

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          To be fair the idea there is that with the extensive corn subsidies, E85 should be significantly cheaper than pure fossil fuel.

          Issue is, even with subsidies, ethanol costs a bunch of money to produce. Farming costs go up too when diesel goes up.

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            Ethanol is cheaper then petrol. The prices schould go down with more mixing in.

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              It should, but the price of ethanol also goes up when fuel prices do. Because it costs fuel to produce ethanol. Not a huge savings by any means.

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                But the ratio for the price change is not 1:1.

                Prices will increase with increased demand.