Top Trump administration officials will address a mass prayer meeting in the heart of Washington Sunday – an event organisers bill as reclaiming the country’s religious foundations, but critics say is a quasi-official rally for Christian nationalism.

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    reclaiming the country’s religious foundations

    Thomas Jefferson wrote specifically about the first Amenment in 1802, stating that the adopted amendment created a “wall of separation between the church and state.”

    Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both strongly opposed the state supporting one specific religion. Per their beliefs, it is a violation of a natural right to religious liberty when you compel a citizen to support a specific faith.

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    Oh, good! I was afraid the lack Christian leadership over the years might have created a vacuum.

    We’ve only had Christian presidents for 250 years, after all.

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    From the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli. Ratified by the Senate which had just recently approved the Bill of Rights, and signed by President John Adams.

    “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

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    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…

    Kinda right there in the bill of rights actually.

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    so I’m catching up on The Boys and I’m having trouble which inspired which, reality or fiction

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    “Christian”

    Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward! But whenever you pray, go into your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

    Matthew 6:5-7

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    “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion” -John Adams

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    Maybe they will say a word of prayer for the Epstein child rape victims as well, being Christian and all.

    /s

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    What’s with the “quasi?” It’s an explicit endorsement of Christianity as the national religion they’re not supposed to have. It’s literally the first amendment to the constitution they love to rub all over their sweaty white bodies.

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      Most people in the US who self identify as Christian are in fact morons. There’s a reason there are so many grifters promoting Christianity, it’s practically free real estate.

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        If you say you’re religious you’re

        • incapable of distinguishing reality from fairy-tales,
        • a liar,
        • or both.
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          Oo, “beleif iz 4 dums” such a bold and controversial take on Lemmy. 🙄

          I hesitate to post this because I really don’t intend to start a flame-chain but…

          This is why we collectively struggle to fight these fascist bastards, because so many on “our side” can’t see past the establishment’s glaringly obvious false-flag bullshit, and are so ready to throw many of their friends and allies away, unable to see past their own arrogance.

          If you leave no room to reconcile with those of differing experiences or beliefs, you will quickly find yourself isolated, bitter, and surrounded by enemies.

          As a Christian who holds utmost love for friends and allies of a plethora of backgrounds and belief systems (or professed lack thereof), and who will resist this “Murica-brand xtian fascism” with all our might, I implore you and others who behave this way:

          Please, leave this bigoted edgy pseudo-intellectual Hitchens/Dawkins-esque nonsense to rot, back on Facebook in 2006. Seeing it repeated so often on every stupid thread where this stupid government does a pathetic imitation of Christianity does not help the resistance. It plays right into their hands.

          It’s the same reason the “manosphere” and other toxic movements have taken root: It tells certain groups of people who would have taken your side that they are not welcome because of who they are, and yet we’re surprised when they end up clustering with those who exploit them as pawns with claims of acceptance.

          We need them, and WE NEED YOU.

          Take care out there…

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            The problem is that at least in the US you are very much in the minority. The overwhelming majority of Christians in the US use their faith primarily as a justification for their racism (or xenophobia but that really just boils down to racism), misogyny, and homophobia (or transphobia). I could count on one hand with fingers left over the number of people I’ve talked to who call themselves Christians and who didn’t at some point shortly there after make a disparaging remark about some kind of minority group. It’s practically guaranteed if you see someone wearing a cross or praying at a meal some racist or homophobic shit is going to be coming out of their mouth sooner or later.

            If those who claim to be Christian actually followed things in the new testament most people wouldn’t have a problem with them, but they don’t. They cherry pick, mostly from the old testament, and then act like that excuses them blatantly acting counter to all the things Jesus supposedly stands for.

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      I mean Trump is a perfect representation of Christianity his voters, just fake posturing to look like a good person. If Jesus was alive today and lived in America the vast majority of Trumpist Christians would outright hate him for being a hardcore commie bastard. And that’s assuming the police won’t just shoot him.

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    Pretty sure they’d get burned and killed by the original Pelgrims whom were considered the ISIS of their time in Europe… Which was hardcore religious as it was already… So imagine those ppl going like ‘wtf dudes, chill!!!’

    That rotten core lives on up to this day - and will keep festering as it’s part of their cultural DNA.