The AHLA said this does not align with Fifa’s statement that more than five million tickets have been sold, external and it creates a risk that “the anticipated economic lift may fall short”.
Lol…
It’s obvious what’s happening, but it’s not as good as people are thinking.
The reason to kets are so expensive, is American reselling processes.
Scalpers ought up all the tickets immediately, and instantly relisted them for higher. New scalpers are buying those, and listing them again.
Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster. And Fifa is likely getting a piece of that in addition to their original piece.
FIFA is going to make a shit ton of money. Scalpers may lose some, but what little “economic incentive” from the games won’t materialize, because we’re almost guaranteed to have a bunch of “unsold” tickets that were sold 4-5 times already.
People already there may be able to capitalize on tickets being cheap right before games start as scalpers panic, but no one will travel short notice. And once the first games air with a bunch of empty seats, people will try to wait till last minute and buy tickets. Likely getting ripped off at the event and trying to enter with fake tickets
The entire thing is going to turn into a giant cluserfuck, and that’s without ICE running around like they’re almost guaranteed to.
You couldn’t pay me enough to show up in the general vicinity of one of these games
Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster.
Yep, this is why the scalper issue will never get resolved, because they also benefit from it. They will literally do every convoluted way to “prevent” scalping except the actual solution: resales can only be done at original ticket price or lower, and no reselling fees go to ticketmaster.
That was pretty much how things worked for Ticketmaster in Norway when I had someone bail on going to a festival we were planning on attending together, as I recall. So it can be addressed, just probably need to be in a country with a functional government and regulations.
Look, I hate Ticketmaster too. But there’s an infrastructure cost. I started with a percentage fee, but that leads to incentive for higher resale values. A nominal transaction flat fee not to exceed $1.00 would make sense
TM itself can fuck off, but a ticket supplier is providing a service, and transferring tickets is part of that service. Unless the seller is literally just handing physical tickets off to a buyer, the mediating service is using resources to facilitate the transfer, which costs them money.
If they get resold 5 times, that’s four scalpers making money and one losing…
That’s not gonna solve the problem, especially since Ticketmaster offers up tickets early to large volume buyers and even reserves huge blocks for them.
Ticketmaster doesn’t give a fuck what the person who sits there actually paid or if the seat is empty
Because everytime it resells, they get the same percentage of an ever growing number.
The product is ticket sales, so they sell the same ticket as many times as they can.
Empty seats won’t solve anything. And if it keeps happening it’ll end up like airplanes where they just sell someone else a new ticket at a discount and profit off the seat again.
We need to actually fix it, and not just for the Cup
Yep, ai got tickets direct from FIFA. Two decent seats (tier 2). They cost me $450 each. They are reselling for $1200+. I am not selling but hope the scalpers lose.
Lol…
It’s obvious what’s happening, but it’s not as good as people are thinking.
The reason to kets are so expensive, is American reselling processes.
Scalpers ought up all the tickets immediately, and instantly relisted them for higher. New scalpers are buying those, and listing them again.
Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster. And Fifa is likely getting a piece of that in addition to their original piece.
FIFA is going to make a shit ton of money. Scalpers may lose some, but what little “economic incentive” from the games won’t materialize, because we’re almost guaranteed to have a bunch of “unsold” tickets that were sold 4-5 times already.
People already there may be able to capitalize on tickets being cheap right before games start as scalpers panic, but no one will travel short notice. And once the first games air with a bunch of empty seats, people will try to wait till last minute and buy tickets. Likely getting ripped off at the event and trying to enter with fake tickets
The entire thing is going to turn into a giant cluserfuck, and that’s without ICE running around like they’re almost guaranteed to.
You couldn’t pay me enough to show up in the general vicinity of one of these games
Yep, this is why the scalper issue will never get resolved, because they also benefit from it. They will literally do every convoluted way to “prevent” scalping except the actual solution: resales can only be done at original ticket price or lower, and no reselling fees go to ticketmaster.
That was pretty much how things worked for Ticketmaster in Norway when I had someone bail on going to a festival we were planning on attending together, as I recall. So it can be addressed, just probably need to be in a country with a functional government and regulations.
I’d even be fine with resale prices limited to original sale price plus a nominal FLAT fee for ticket master.
Why should Ticketmaster get anything from a resale?!
Look, I hate Ticketmaster too. But there’s an infrastructure cost. I started with a percentage fee, but that leads to incentive for higher resale values. A nominal transaction flat fee not to exceed $1.00 would make sense
TM itself can fuck off, but a ticket supplier is providing a service, and transferring tickets is part of that service. Unless the seller is literally just handing physical tickets off to a buyer, the mediating service is using resources to facilitate the transfer, which costs them money.
How much does
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Would be funny if the only people attending the games were the last scalpers left holding the bag like ‘eh may as well’
Wouldn’t it be fun if the scalpers would end up with loads of unsold tickets?
If they get resold 5 times, that’s four scalpers making money and one losing…
That’s not gonna solve the problem, especially since Ticketmaster offers up tickets early to large volume buyers and even reserves huge blocks for them.
Ticketmaster doesn’t give a fuck what the person who sits there actually paid or if the seat is empty
Because everytime it resells, they get the same percentage of an ever growing number.
The product is ticket sales, so they sell the same ticket as many times as they can.
Empty seats won’t solve anything. And if it keeps happening it’ll end up like airplanes where they just sell someone else a new ticket at a discount and profit off the seat again.
We need to actually fix it, and not just for the Cup
Seems like a good way to launder money
Yep, ai got tickets direct from FIFA. Two decent seats (tier 2). They cost me $450 each. They are reselling for $1200+. I am not selling but hope the scalpers lose.
Ha. Those will be $30 when they need to pack the stands for TV.
How does that work if the tickets are owned by scalpers?
good luck… tons of “at cost” tickets are not selling