Investigative reporter Jeremy Scahill shared a startling revelation last week that Iranian negotiators had recruited psychologists to help navigate what they believed was Trump’s “impaired mental state.” And on Monday, Scahill provided an update on Iran’s unique approach to the negotiations, which he said Tehran partially credited for Sunday’s success.

“Senior Iranian psychologists began working with the negotiating team to try to cater the messages that the Iranians were sending via mediators back to Donald Trump to try to take into account what they say as his specific mental illness and mental deficiencies,” Scahill said in an interview with Democracy Now published on Monday.

“Almost quite clinically, they said they began to see this process yielding results as they worked with psychologists to send these communications to Donald Trump, and they credit that, in part, with getting to this point where Trump finally accepted some version of his manufactured and almost entirely false victory narrative.”

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    I don’t think this is unique, it’s just rare for someone to openly say it.

    Especially since openly saying it runs the rather high risk of undermining the whole approach. If Trump hears this, he’ll get all pissy and tank things for the sake of his fragile ego.

    You can see it in most every person in Trump’s circle. They all play the game of manipulating the president, all you need to do is risk your dignity and you can pretty much get him to do whatever. If they dare to serve their own ego, they fail.

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      He’s already tanked it several times thus far. That’s why he keeps saying they’re leaking false conditions. Like no grampa, you just weren’t told about those.

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      Maybe the con is longer than just this deal. Or maybe this is coming from someone other than Iran that wants the war to heat up rather than end (or even just to keep the strait closed).

      Or maybe someone’s head got too big and they wanted to brag about manipulating Trump when it wasn’t yet strategically or tactically sound to do so.

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        Colud be someone bragging to someone not expecting it to work all the way out to the media.

        Or a narrative that is probably fairly described, but editorialized. E.g. if they did state the fact they had the help of psychologists in negotiating, that statement by itself doesn’t necessarily insult a man that thinks only very smart people pass cognitive tests.

        So the reporting actually extrapolates into the obvious, but unstated implications of why pyschologists would be useful in this situation.

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        Well that’s what they’re saying… they don’t have any dignity, that’s why they can get him to do all this stuff.

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    This deal isn’t worth the paper it hasn’t been printed on…

    But Iranians aren’t stupid, they know this too, and they won’t be caught with their pants down. They were ready 4 months ago, and they’ll be ready next time

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      It’s almost like they’ve been preparing for this for nearly 60 years or something. People are clever, and every time a major power decides to go to war they show the whole world what they’re capable of, which isn’t a good thing for someone like Trump. Man’s all bluff and no follow-through.

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      Yet now they’ve let it get in the press that they see him as mentally ill. Trump’s ego will not like that despite how true it is.

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        His nurses will keep it from him. If he doesn’t see a fake version of the internet yet, he will be after this

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        What? You believe that fake news? This is negative news about Trump, obviously planted by dumocrats to undermine THE GREATEST DEAL OF ALL TIME.

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    A lot of people know how to play Trump, give him some meaningless reward, a golden plane whatever. “best president the world has ever seen”

    Tell him last time he said this even though he didn’t etc. like old people scammers.

    Experts are not even needed.

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      The world needs to crowdfund a gold plated private jet and a “This person did not appear in the Epstein files” award to Trump, then tell him to send the military after the oligarchs and the theocratic fascists.

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        It could all be much simpler than we think. Half a million people on earth spend 1000 bucks each and it’s all over.

        A few million to say JD Vance is “crooked” on TV A few million to deport Elon or Peter Thiel

        Etc.

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    He’s clearly losing it, but this is also clearly propaganda from a country engaged in a war. Anyone who takes this seriously is a fool. Trump is a vacant turnip, but we can asses that for ourselves. Don’t be stupid. Of course they will say anything they can to smear him. They don’t need to. He’s already covered in shit.

    Let’s hope his derangement leads to a direct attack on israel when they refuse to honor whatever peace deal we make to pretend we weren’t pantsed by Iran.

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      Using psychology to understand how to come to terms with a narcissistic shit baby doesn’t seem that implausible to me.

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      Just because it’s propaganda doesn’t mean it’s untrue. The story tracks and changes nothing I believe about the US’s tyrannical tangerine toddler.

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      The next question: so why are they saying this? It seems to me that Iran values weakening the US more than they do a peace deal, even a lopsided $300B one. So Trump has a temper tantrum and goes back to bombing Iran. Through some twisted logic, that’s good for Iran.

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        Unironically, the people leaking this want the war. Could be Iranian hardliners, could be made up whole cloth. Hell, could be mossad agents that have infiltrated the Iranian government, hoping to reignite the war for Israel. I have no doubt that this was written to reignite the war; we’ll just have to see what comes out of it.

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      Is there any chance that the administration isn’t making bets on whether Iran waits for the check to clear before invalidating the ‘deal’?

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    I think he’d believe it if we told him his golden bunker moon base was completed and ready for him. Then we could just send him out there somewhere.

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      Probably both.a combination of “don’t you remember when we agreed to this?” And “only a big strong president with large hands could make this deal, what a big boy you are.”

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      You don’t need them. Manipulating a narcissist is incredibly easy, like take candy from a baby easy.

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      Evidently Israel asked for a copy of the deal and Washington told them “no”. I was cracking up.

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    “We are giving you the Iranian world peace prize and the golden key the the straight of Hormuz”…thx for the billions

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    addressing exploiting

    he deserves it.

    we pay the price.

    just another day in america

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        It is if you acknowledge who the perpetrator is, which isn’t Iran. America is one of many of Trump’s victims.

        …course, Trump himself was the result of America shooting itself in the foot in the first place. Then instead of learning its lesson, shooting itself in the other foot one presidency later. So… I hate to victim blame, but we kinda stuck our dick in the hornet’s nest. This particular victimhood was glaringly foreseeable and easily avoidable. We’re getting what we asked for.

        Apologies to the rest of the world for being the meth house of the global neighborhood.

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          Just because we can see it coming doesnt make it stoppable. I can see a train coming but I’m not going to stop it.

          This seems to be the natural progression of things given the systems and stories we decide to live by.

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            Oh, individually? We’re tied to the tracks. I was talking collectively, in which case we very much fucked up.

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        Exploiting his mental illness to their advantage makes no statement of if they’re the victim of the war. For example, you may exploit the invader’s military weakness in a war. To exploit means you take advantage of something, which they did.

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              Thats not what the comment says.

              “Iranians say addressing Trump’s ‘mental illness’ head on helped secure deal: journalist”

              addressing exploiting

              The comment is implying Trump is being exploited and America is paying the price for Iran’s exploitation of Trump.

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                The comment says there are many victims, referencing the fact that it’s not just Iranians who have suffered because of Trump’s senility and evil. You’re choosing to read it differently than it was intended.

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                Both can be true. Iran took advantage of Trump’s mental illness to get what they wanted. They deserved it, but it’s a costly deal for the American people. I and everyone with a brain blame Trump.

                Honestly this is a raw deal for the world in general. Oil will now forever be slightly more expensive due to the tolls. Iran will come out of this stronger and that’s bad for the world too.

                We watched the two school yard bullies go at it and the one that started it lost. Which is fun to watch, but honestly nothing is materially better for anyone. We still have a fledgling fascist theocracy and an autocratic theocracy.

                The fledgling theocracy will probably thrash and cause more issues globally and the existing theocracy will use it’s wealth to expand its local power.

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                  The fledgling theocracy will probably thrash and cause more issues globally

                  Issues Iran has caused: defeating ISIS, helping Lebanon defend itself from America’s attack dog Israel, helping Yemen defend itself from America’s other vassal, Saudi Arabia.

                  You’re still uncritically accepting same “both sides” bullshit the US uses to prevent opposition to imperialism. A place not having your ideal government doesn’t mean its good when the US keeps it weak by starving its people, finding some fascists to arm, and/or bombing them.

                  Iran being able to stand up to the US is fundamentally a good thing. Maybe we’ll even see social progress now that they’re not facing an existential threat.

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            Trump caused this; while it could be seen as justified for Iran to exploit the situation, the American People, the majority of whom did not want to be in this position, are the ones mostly paying the price.

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              Iran getting reparations for hundreds of school children America murdered and its assets unfrozen is not Iran exploiting anybody, if I spend half a century repeatedly stabbing you, and then pull the knife out 1 inch, that’s not you stabbing me, thats a slight decrease in how much I am currently stabbing you.

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          Let me clarify, America and Americans are in no way being exploited by Iran because we are unfreezing Iranian assets and paying reparations for hundreds of children we murdered, what the fuck.

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      Better he be exploited than Palestinian babies keep exploting. Now all there’s remaining is that Bibi gets the memo and slinks off.