Oh I was about to reply in earnest about how fucking retarded that statement is but I spotted the .ml just in time and saved us both the trouble. My condolences.
I know a lot of wonderful individuals who deserve the dignity of not having that slur used in common parlance and also not having their disabilities being compared to .ml users. The .ml guys are almost universally bad people and they are not.
Well we’re probably thinking of different words then.
Having disabilities, disease, cognitive challenges or neurological differences, has nothing to do with being retarded. That’s reserved for the willful stupidity, authoritarians, and otherwise those politically active while being divorced from reality.
It was the official designation for intellectual disability in the icd 9. While the icd 10 was released in 1993 America didn’t fully transition to icd 10 until like 2014-2015. Aside from the clinical aspect anyone whos older than like 11 years old and speaks English is very aware that word is used to disparage someone’s opinion by comparing them to the intellectually disabled.
You can decide to ignore that very real and very recent history to assuage your guilt for saying slurs but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re saying slurs and doubling down because you can’t stand being called out for talking like a 13 year old call of duty player
Yes, I will happily continue to misuse slurs. But thanks for the history lesson. I also call myself an “idiot” and “moron” with some frequency, so if that’s indeed how language works then I suppose I may have some claim to the slur…
However, I don’t think linguistics works like that. Perhaps you learned nothing from the endless cycle of prescriptive rebranding, but many others have. I find much personal utility in these sorts of words, with very directed usage and now even my explicitly declared intent.
If you or anyone else was offended or personally hurt by an (obviously understandable) misunderstanding, then I wish to make it very clear that I sincerely apologize for any undue harm, as my intended target was not you and I wasn’t using the same word you’re thinking of. But if you wish to stubbornly continue to take something else from them other than what I mean, and after I’ve elaborated on what I meant,… then that’s not really my problem anymore. After that, you’re not really “calling me out” so much as just being wrong
Okay then say the n word. By your rationale if your intent is not to disparage a racial minority and instead to utilize a personal utility that continues to define it as a disparagement but wink wink doesn’t count as a slur then it’s fine, right?
The point is you can describe your “intent” all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that these words are regularly used as pejorative slurs to disparage an entire class. Prescriptive rebranding takes generations to shift and doesn’t even work all the time (eg mongoloid) unless you do mental gymnastics to ignore the harm you’re doing, like you are
Oh I was about to reply in earnest about how fucking retarded that statement is but I spotted the .ml just in time and saved us both the trouble. My condolences.
I know a lot of wonderful individuals who deserve the dignity of not having that slur used in common parlance and also not having their disabilities being compared to .ml users. The .ml guys are almost universally bad people and they are not.
Well we’re probably thinking of different words then.
Having disabilities, disease, cognitive challenges or neurological differences, has nothing to do with being retarded. That’s reserved for the willful stupidity, authoritarians, and otherwise those politically active while being divorced from reality.
It was the official designation for intellectual disability in the icd 9. While the icd 10 was released in 1993 America didn’t fully transition to icd 10 until like 2014-2015. Aside from the clinical aspect anyone whos older than like 11 years old and speaks English is very aware that word is used to disparage someone’s opinion by comparing them to the intellectually disabled.
You can decide to ignore that very real and very recent history to assuage your guilt for saying slurs but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re saying slurs and doubling down because you can’t stand being called out for talking like a 13 year old call of duty player
Yes, I will happily continue to misuse slurs. But thanks for the history lesson. I also call myself an “idiot” and “moron” with some frequency, so if that’s indeed how language works then I suppose I may have some claim to the slur…
However, I don’t think linguistics works like that. Perhaps you learned nothing from the endless cycle of prescriptive rebranding, but many others have. I find much personal utility in these sorts of words, with very directed usage and now even my explicitly declared intent.
If you or anyone else was offended or personally hurt by an (obviously understandable) misunderstanding, then I wish to make it very clear that I sincerely apologize for any undue harm, as my intended target was not you and I wasn’t using the same word you’re thinking of. But if you wish to stubbornly continue to take something else from them other than what I mean, and after I’ve elaborated on what I meant,… then that’s not really my problem anymore. After that, you’re not really “calling me out” so much as just being wrong
Okay then say the n word. By your rationale if your intent is not to disparage a racial minority and instead to utilize a personal utility that continues to define it as a disparagement but wink wink doesn’t count as a slur then it’s fine, right?
The point is you can describe your “intent” all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that these words are regularly used as pejorative slurs to disparage an entire class. Prescriptive rebranding takes generations to shift and doesn’t even work all the time (eg mongoloid) unless you do mental gymnastics to ignore the harm you’re doing, like you are