And people think sound suppressors are only for assassins. What if I just want to do some target shooting without blowing out my ear drums? It’s a valid reasoning.
Depends on the caliber and shooting environment. Some suppressed rifles can still be 140dB or more, which is the burst threshold where hearing loss can occur
They perform as suppressors, in some cases they act as a silencer by making them extremely quiet. In most cases they suppress the sound, so what’s the point of your semantics based reply?
In almost all cases the firearm becomes “hearing safe” where one does not need earpro.
I actually own and employ suppressors. Folks who call them silencers are hollywood informed and not particularly experienced.
Either way the original claim is plain incorrect, no matter how many lems downvote.
edit: y’all downvoters are some dum ass ill-informed lembs (see what I did there, lol!)
My “semantic” argument is that if you take a hunting rifle out on the range and run it with a suppressor and no ear protection, you are exceeding the threshold where hearing loss can occur.
The answer to “You still need hearing protection with a silencer,” is not “No,” it is “It depends.”
yo scops, this is so fucking pedantic and truly pointless
Original ill-informed commenter made a blanket statement and I replied with experience and accuracy.
please read it again as I clearly state “especially with subsonic ammo”
I shoot both my AR and .308 without earpro. While the bullet still go supersonic and there’s a crack, it’s entirely safe and I do not need earpro.
When I shoot 22lr and .38s it’s Hollywood quiet, when I shoot subsonic 9mm it’s quiet but not anything special.
Grow up scops. This one of the most pointless exchanges I’ve had on Lemmy.
I used to joke about putting a suppressor on a .22 untill my uncle did it when I was a teenager. I still love shooting small game at 75 yards with it. Probably my most used gun.
Home defense without blowing my ears on the stairs, and my poor kitties don’t like vacuums you think they’re trying to hear that? In parts of FR and UK they’re required safety equipment!
Seems like its like this in most States. I know waiting periods are pretty common (pay today, but don’t get possession or the firearm for 1-4 weeks).
It also seems like mail order of complete guns directly to a residential address is pretty locked down (I know 80% guns and such have loop holes). Its my understanding that you’ve got to have it delivered to a licensed gun dealer, then you can collect it there where they’re can do any requisite ID / document checks. Bet this varies state by state though, as well as the bar for constituting a “licensed gun dealer”.
The only entity allowed to mail a gun directly to your home is the federal government, through the CMP. No one else can legally do it as far as I know.
Maybe C&R stuff is allowed, but I’ve never dealt with it.
Oddly enough it works like this for silencers to my understanding. And concealed carry to an extent.
But yeah people would riot without their guns
And people think sound suppressors are only for assassins. What if I just want to do some target shooting without blowing out my ear drums? It’s a valid reasoning.
They really should call them dampeners, because you still need hearing protection while using a silencer
No you do not, that’s the point. Especially if shooting subsonic ammo through a suppressor.
Depends on the caliber and shooting environment. Some suppressed rifles can still be 140dB or more, which is the burst threshold where hearing loss can occur
Wtf does that matter?
They perform as suppressors, in some cases they act as a silencer by making them extremely quiet. In most cases they suppress the sound, so what’s the point of your semantics based reply?
In almost all cases the firearm becomes “hearing safe” where one does not need earpro.
I actually own and employ suppressors. Folks who call them silencers are hollywood informed and not particularly experienced.
Either way the original claim is plain incorrect, no matter how many lems downvote.
edit: y’all downvoters are some dum ass ill-informed lembs (see what I did there, lol!)
You replied to a blanket statement with a blanket statement. “You still need hearing protection with a silencer,” and “No you don’t.”
Now you’ve narrowed the scope.
That’s good. But don’t pretend you weren’t wrong to begin with.
A suppressed .308 report is 147-151 dB. .308 Winchester is by no means an exotic cartridge.
My “semantic” argument is that if you take a hunting rifle out on the range and run it with a suppressor and no ear protection, you are exceeding the threshold where hearing loss can occur.
The answer to “You still need hearing protection with a silencer,” is not “No,” it is “It depends.”
yo scops, this is so fucking pedantic and truly pointless
Original ill-informed commenter made a blanket statement and I replied with experience and accuracy. please read it again as I clearly state “especially with subsonic ammo”
I shoot both my AR and .308 without earpro. While the bullet still go supersonic and there’s a crack, it’s entirely safe and I do not need earpro.
When I shoot 22lr and .38s it’s Hollywood quiet, when I shoot subsonic 9mm it’s quiet but not anything special.
Grow up scops. This one of the most pointless exchanges I’ve had on Lemmy.
Have you ever had your hearing tested? You might just already have hearing damage.
Maybe .22 but anything else is still gonna be loud enough you’ll want foam plugs at least.
That’s squarely incorrect and ill-informed.
I use suppressors.
Well your patiently incorrect then, as anything over 85db will cause hearing damage from prolonged exposure.
Legally, there is no such thing as a “suppressor”. Legally, they are “firearm silencers” or “firearm mufflers”.
And before you downvote me, actually look it up.. “Suppressor” is an industry term with no legal meaning.
I used to joke about putting a suppressor on a .22 untill my uncle did it when I was a teenager. I still love shooting small game at 75 yards with it. Probably my most used gun.
Ear protection.
Not nearly as cool, unfortunately
Home defense without blowing my ears on the stairs, and my poor kitties don’t like vacuums you think they’re trying to hear that? In parts of FR and UK they’re required safety equipment!
Seems like its like this in most States. I know waiting periods are pretty common (pay today, but don’t get possession or the firearm for 1-4 weeks).
It also seems like mail order of complete guns directly to a residential address is pretty locked down (I know 80% guns and such have loop holes). Its my understanding that you’ve got to have it delivered to a licensed gun dealer, then you can collect it there where they’re can do any requisite ID / document checks. Bet this varies state by state though, as well as the bar for constituting a “licensed gun dealer”.
Because an 80% is not a gun.
The only entity allowed to mail a gun directly to your home is the federal government, through the CMP. No one else can legally do it as far as I know.
Maybe C&R stuff is allowed, but I’ve never dealt with it.
Nah, that’s all federal as fuck.
The only real difference is presenting original documents. NICS is already a bureaucratic process that can’t easily be fixed if you’re flagged.