• Admetus@sopuli.xyz
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    Quoting 5k deaths when Chernobyl was a single incident probably contributing to most of them.

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      The only reason it killed so many was the poop grade soviet response. Men were cheaper than machines. Saving face was more important than casualties. Russia still employs blocking brigades in Ukraine for the same beleifs the USSR mindset never died.

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        That’s definitely not accurate. For example, stopping the water table from being as polluted under the conditions meant having to use people.

        They could also have just not bothered.

        I’m not saying that their response didn’t kill a lot of people.

        It did.

        I’m saying it could have been much worse sr

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          It was pants on head stupid start to finish. The miners aren’t the ones who died of radiation poisoning the cleanup crew was who got fried. Wet dirt is a great radiation shield.

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            Well, wet dirt is permeable and my understanding was they needed to stop the radioactive material leeching into the water table. Which would have caused radiation poisoning and cancer rates to soar for much of Europe.

            It also was not stupid from start to finish. If it were, it would still be uncovered and half of Europe would need to be evacuated.

            IMO the biggest problems were to do with the reactor design being secret. That and the attempted coverup afterwards. But I wouldn’t consider the cleanup to have been incompetent. The Chernobyl liquidators have been widely credited with limiting the effects of the disaster.

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      Only 30 people actually died as a direct result of the Chernobyl disaster. It’s very hard to know how much indirect deaths however. Or the overall impact on health for people in Europe. Estimations range from 4000 (WHO) up to 16000. No idea what OPs numbers include or don’t include.

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        That’s the trouble, just under 5000 deaths when you take away freak accidents (like the Japanese worker who was inundated with highly radioactive liquid) so those numbers must fall under a specific estimate.