Abraham Lincoln didn’t free the slaves Slaves fought for their rights and freed themselves.

Stop giving that guy all the credit for signing the Emancipation Proclamation, especially since he ordered the biggest mass execution against indigenous people in history.

Trump is a convicted felon and should’ve been disqualified from the election.

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    I see the point of the graphic, but I think everyone in a position of power should be held accountable for soliciting sexual favor from underlings. That goes hundredfold when you are the president of the United States and she’s a twenty year old intern.

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      In the same vein,

      • Obama “drone strike king” did way worse than wear a tan suit. He assassinated gadafi, and holds (held?) the record for most deportations with reports of immigrant children in cages.
      • Biden had that whole rio grande fiasco where people were drowning everyday as he opened the asylum loophole which set T boy up for a win ( almost suspiciously efficiently, wouldn’t you say?)

      Make no mistake, folks, the Two Party Mafia is corrupt all around.

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      Held accountable?

      Her name has been a joke for decades.

      She got dragged through the mud and they went after Bill for lying, not being a predator.

      In what way would you call it a win for anything except hypocrisy?

      The Senate didn’t impeach Bill because Hustler magazine siad they had a list of all the Senators who’d done the same thing.

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        This feels like you’re trying to accuse me of something, but if you don’t actually say it I can’t really speak to it.

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          I’m just pointing out that Monica was threated a million times worse by the ‘pure’ people than by Bill.

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            Seriously? Is this the hill you pick? “Other people were worse to than her boss who shoved his cock down her throat and also was the literal boss of the western world?”

            Dude. Fuck you.

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              They were saying that Clinton wasn’t held accountable enough. They didn’t talk about anyone being worse than him.

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                I’m just pointing out that Monica was threated a million times worse by the ‘pure’ people than by Bill.

                You know, it’s right there.

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              “In what way would you call it a win for anything except hypocrisy?”

              The “it” being the Clinton Impeachment.

              That’s from my original commnet and you didn’t answer it.

              Explain in detail why she should be grateful for having her name smeared and being turned into a joke.

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                I think you two might be talking past each other.

                vzqq never claimed Bill was held sufficiently accountable, or held accountable at all for that matter. They stated a belief that there should be accountability for that kind of thing, which you clearly agree with. That’s probably why they didn’t engage your comment. They never claimed anything was a win, so they didn’t see how your point applied. Which honestly, it kinda didn’t.

                So when you brought up Monica being treated far worse than Bill, they read it as “the people who attacked Monica were worse than her sexual predator of a boss.” Stripped of the context you made it in, and given they already agreed Bill should have been held accountable, they assumed you must be contesting something else. Their interpretation of which was a stretch, their own shock at it probably should have tipped them off, but they were pretty clearly just confused by then.

                Sorry for the diatribe. I just hate watching two people who agree argue over a misunderstanding, especially when the ethics they both hold are fundamentally sound.

    • Check out the You’re Wrong About on Monica Lewinsky. Even she admits the affair was between two consenting adults. The scandal was not that Clinton abused his power but that he committed adultery (which is legal in all fifty states). Republicans at the time were arguing a man who couldn’t keep marital commitments is not fit for office.

      Obviously by the time of Trump, they didn’t care anymore.

      Of all the (many, many) sex scandals in state and federal politics (and coming out of the religious right), The Lewensky affair was incredibly benign. If they have an R next to their name, though, no-one cares.

      And then historical Presidents like Kennedy, FDR AND McKinley were far more scandalous.

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        The scandal was that he lied about his affair with Monica lewinski when he was under oath testifying as the dependant in a sexual harassment inquiry.