Abraham Lincoln didn’t free the slaves Slaves fought for their rights and freed themselves.

Stop giving that guy all the credit for signing the Emancipation Proclamation, especially since he ordered the biggest mass execution against indigenous people in history.

Trump is a convicted felon and should’ve been disqualified from the election.

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    Hating anyone who has an ® after their name is nearly as bad as loving anyone who has an ® after their name. I’ve never heard Abraham Lincoln called a “sleaze” of all things. You’re going to lose most people on that one.

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      Especially when, by the standards of that time, Democrats were also generally responsible for slavery, the Civil War, and a century of segregation to follow.

      You just can’t compare politics from 150 years ago to politics today.

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        But… my shrieking rage that all who came before me were literally Hitler! What will I do without it? Screaming at people online that they’re stupid and wrong and also literally Hitler if they don’t agree with my Righteous Rightness is all I have. :/

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          I mean, I think the world needs more people who are trying to be Righteously Right about things than ones who dgaf and just take what they want, even if the righteousness can be a bit exhausting sometimes

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          You think you are being wise and nuanced but you are excusing genocide.

          Be better.

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      Fuck ®, ©, and ™ !

      But seriously, when you go that far back in time it’s important to make a distinction between “Republicans” and “conservatives.” Conservatives have always been terrible, but Republicans haven’t always been conservative.

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      Abraham Lincoln was a genocidal racist piece of shit. He, together with almost every other US president in history, needs to be treated the same as trump or hitler. If you can’t accept that you have some reading to do. In particular you can check out what Lincoln wanted all the “freed” (how white-savior of him, btw) slaves to do, and about the biggest mass execution in the US history.

      This is not limited to republicans. Democrat presidents are also almost universally genocidal war criminals. Maybe we can cut a tiny bit of slack for FDR, but even he put capitalist interests above those of workers and minorities.

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          I’ve seen two posts today that are just unhinged. Like I can’t imagine the comments being written as actual verbal conversation at a BBQ or something because it feels like I’m being yelled at for not owning a time machine.

          Never noticed the ml people before. I partially agree with them but I don’t think that’d be enough to stop them from lumping me in with the others.

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            So then at the barbecue, I said to the American scum:

            Maybe those innocent people should haul a guillotine down to DC and loudly complain to those responsible for this mess instead of pointing fingers at other countries.

            Y’all get no sympathy from me. Take care of your fucking fascism problem. The second amendment is useful for more than shooting children in classrooms.

            It was normal af.

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            You all sound like freshmen who just had their first 101 level courses and are now experts on world history and rights and everything else, filled with righteous indignation and ready to scream at anyone who doesn’t instantly tell you how right and brilliant you are. It’s exhausting.

            I’m just going to block you and the rest of the shriekers. You can tell me all about your great victories over things that happened centuries ago in a few decades when you grow up and calm down a bit.