• Lumisal@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    They’re both bad. China is full of pollution issues (though admittedly making progress), global blackmail (well mostly Africa) and terrible (virtually non-existent?) privacy. And a totalitarian capitalist state.

    USA is an Idiocracy also full of pollution issues, mind numbing idiocy, and a declining imperialist empire full of (and I really can’t emphasize how many) idiots that’s a cancer spreading fascism and oligarchy.

    Finland is, well, here. The Prime Minister did some corruption with an ice hockey stadium, but that’s recent and we’re waiting to see if he’ll be jailed. If he isn’t, we’ll be joining the ranks of corrupt capitalistic oligarchies I suppose, but we’ve had an okayish track record so far. Never invaded other countries (USA and to a much lesser extent, China) or tried to annihilate others (Taiwan).

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      Not a chin defender typically but why is what China is doing in africa black mail? Especially in comparison to traditional banking loans used to leverage natural resources away from africa?

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      If China is a 10 on badness scale, then the US is at 10000000. I won’t tolerate people even talking about the two as equals.

      • Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Damn, you really bit the propaganda apple didn’t you?

        Yes the US is worse, but not by much. Your hypothetical level would be closer to 12 or something. 13-14 because of Trump.

        When 18-20 would be Nazi Germany

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          How many illegal wars of aggression has China started in the last 50 years? What about the US? How many civilians has China killed in the last 50 years? The US?

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          The US is worse than Nazi Germany lol. You literally dropped two nukes on Japan, created the terror state of Israel, fucked up the geopolitics of the entire world and are now sponsoring the rebirth on fascism world wide. Hitler was inspired by the US ffs. And that’s not to speak of the genocide of native Americans. So please stop being such a butthurt yank and do some self reflection. Trump is what the US always has been, without the pretense of being civilised.

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              Not to mention the Vietnam war, the American prison system, the treatment of refugees… God the list is so long this idiot above in the comments thinks it all began with le bad orange CHEETO man. But then again, what to expect from the dumbest population of all time

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                In a sufficiently capitalist society, it is impossible to distinguish the dumb from the propagandized.

                  • Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.worldOP
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                    You might be better at trolling than I am. Although, you are picking a way easier target here. Challenge yourself, go after something a large group on lemmy actually likes, consider zipper merging.