I am VERY opinionated about a lot of things. I often wish I could just sit back and not be so staunch :(

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    One of my staunchest opinions is that most people including myself are idiots, so I probably should think carefully about all my opinions and I should be open to reevaluating them periodically.

  • My conviction of not comitting crimes or being dishonest to clients and customers at the behest of an employer has gotten me fired more than once.

    But I never wished I was a piece of shit that would do so without question. I just wished I could get a job not run by pieces of shit.

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    If convictions are backed up by best knowledge we have and stand up to scrutiny then they are good until new information is discovered that updates the old. Don’t fall for the ego control, be aware it wants to be right and fights new information, but shouldn’t, learning new things is fun! Follow Sagan’s baloney detection kit, and scientific method, and one part is don’t get attached to a theory. To combine Sagan and Watts, we’re all waves of one ocean, made of stardust, the cosmos observing itself, that’s the truth that sets us free, test it :)

    Edit: Convictions are part of Perry’s scheme of cognition, and to get there it requires the skepticism to understand what is peer-reviewed and data backed and what is not.

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    I have changed my mind on enough serious issues over my lifetime that I was on the wrong side of that I do feel pretty confident that my most strongly held convictions are worth the strength with which I hold them. And also that they are not immune from being re-evaluated given enough good evidence against them.

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    I often wish I could just sit back and not be so staunch :(

    I remember having lengthy debates with myself in elementary school about how strictly I adhered to my personal convictions. It seemed like most people didn’t care, or could easily let go of things. I wanted so badly to stop caring about the specifics of things and just be chill like everyone else, but I just couldn’t let go. Without empirical evidence to prove me wrong, I just wouldn’t budge in my convictions. I was practically in tears about it at times.

    Many years later, in my late 30s, I found out that I have a severe case of ADHD. The doctor who diagnosed me had her PhD in ADHD studies and had been working as a researcher and therapist in the field of ADHD for 11 years. She said I was the worst case she’d ever seen.

    Most of my childhood was lived through the '80s-'90s, when ADHD was just the “hyperactive kid syndrome.” If you weren’t constantly running around screaming and disrupting everything around you, you were considered normal.

    I was always bursting with energy and internally screaming when I had to sit still for more than 5 minutes. But everyone just chalked it up to me being an energy-filled kid with a wild imagination and a love for playing outdoors. The fact that I could sit still meant that I was “normal.”

    But as the decades rolled on, our understanding of ADHD has increased and it turns out, it’s a lot more complicated than we originally thought. Obsessing over details, pouring over concepts again and again to form strong opinions, and then refusing to change those convictions unless definitively proven wrong is 100% an effect of ADHD.

    Not saying you have ADHD, OP, but your situation is very familiar to me, and ADHD was the answer I lacked for many years.

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    Im pretty laid back but also pretty staunch in my convictions. My bar to engage was kinda high before the internet. I had to sorta respect your intellectual ability before I would. I will only knock my head against a wall so much though.

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    In my early 20s, I was close to what might now be called a budding christian nationalist listening to right-wing AM radio on my lunch break thinking people were lazy and just didn’t work hard enough (I was making I think $26k/yr then at my first salaried “real job”. It wasn’t enough to save much money on even in the early 2000s). Had the internet been where it is now back then, I don’t even want to think about what I may have become.

    Fast forward to today in my mid-40s and I’m a left-leaning atheist union member who believes we need to have better social programs, free education, wealth tax, UBI, etc. If not a complete 180, at least very close to it.

    I do change my mind on things as evidence and experience guide me to do so. When beliefs become too much of one’s identity, whatever those beliefs may be, things start getting into very dangerous territory. I used to be very dogmatic and sure of my path in my 20s.

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    Staunch? I am constantly reevaluating my positions; considering new data or hypotheticals to challenge them or debating them with myself to make sure they are worthy of me holding them.

    I think the ability to adapt one’s viewpoint to the addition of new information is a hallmark of maturity. It does depend on the ability to critically evaluate information, though, which is fallible in any human.

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    I have a very strict moral and ethic code - I cannot shut up if i perceive someone being treated unfairly or harassed, and it has gotten me into my share of conflicts (often out of the blue). I do not want to change that - it is an integral part of my personality that i think is a very positive feature, because it makes me stand up for others who might not be able to do it.

    But it comes with a cost, because that strict code is applied to myself at a much larger scale and with much less leeway than i apply it to the outside. This makes every decision and action something i have to get my own approval for, and i am in no way benevolent or even slightly nice towards myself and my performance. I’ve been working on reducing these tendencies in therapy for years now, and i have made some progress (my therapist says it’s quite a lot of progress in comparison to most of his clients, but i am a lot less forgiving and have a hard time appreciating how much i have already changed), but it’s a pretty hard task. So if i had the option of being less rigid internally and more appreciative of my actions, i would take that for sure.

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    Some things yes. Somethings no. The question is, can you be a person about it?

    If you are arguing about whether people have human rights inherently? Awesome. Keep that. If you are routinely arguing about how many wheels a train car should have? Maybe chill out. People are going to have different values than you so ymmv, but if you can make an effort to attempt to empathize most things aren’t as cut and dry as even Lemmy makes them out to be.

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      Ok but 8 wheels (4 on each side of the car) is the objectively correct choice and anyone who disagrees is DEAD TO ME.

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    Wishing I wasn’t staunch doesn’t sound very staunch to me…

    But you answer your question, yes, I’m resolute in my convictions. I don’t have many of them but the ones I have are worth defending.

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    Only when people can’t be bothered to defend their opposition to my stance. When people are actually willing to engage with what I’m saying, I’m perfectly willing to change my mind.

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    No. It’s rare that I can’t see both sides of an issue, so I rarely come down especially strongly on one side or the other. However, I do have the bad habit of trying to explain the side contrary to the prevailing view in my circles online which can piss people off…

    Below, Velma is referring to this thread where they had a very unpopular opinion, just in case you got the impression that they’re doing anything other than trying to follow me around and yell at me. I don’t consider that thread an example of this at all, because pretty much everyone had the same opinion as me there except Velma. The only link is perhaps my frustration at them being so “staunch” in their convictions that they’re unable to hold a productive conversation about it, and instead can only repeat their firm belief again and again. I’m not here to trade “yes it is” - “no it isn’t” for ever and ever.

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      Being able to “see both sides” of recording someone having sex without their consent will absolutely piss some people off lol

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        I made it clear to you, politely, I was done talking with you about that, and I told you exactly why. Do I need to tell you to stop harassing me as well? That’s a rhetorical question. Don’t answer me - just fuck off.

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          I came across this thread browsing, I didn’t seek you out.

          If you don’t want others remembering conversations where you tried to “both sides” recording people having sex without their consent, then don’t engage in that kind of debate.

          Those conversations don’t live in isolation and the people you converse with don’t disappear from the internet the next day.

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        They popped onto my awareness a couple of weeks ago when someone else was being a cunt to them, although I didn’t agree with whatever it was had raised that person’s ire either.

        I think generally I’m pretty good at hearing people out - if they are willing and able to explain themselves… but obviously I can’t get through to everyone. I think because I have that perception of myself, when I see someone failing to get their point across I have a hubristic tendency to think I can jump in sort it out… when that doesn’t work, it leaves me feeling frustrated rather than amused. Flaw on my part.

        So I don’t find them funny really. But the thing keeping me from blocking them is that now I feel like I need to watch for them replying with snide, dishonest remarks, which I can’t do if I block them.

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          I feel that middle paragraph a lot.

          The left completely lost me for a while during the 2010s due to shitty messaging. “I’m not here to educate you”, “I can tell you’re a straight white male”, etc etc. Ive always been very egalitarian minded, so when the ones claiming they’re for equality are harassing people based on unchangeable characteristics, it really pisses me off. Thankfully I ended up finding some people that actually knew how talk with another human being. I feel partially responsible for the mess my country is in now, but honestly, so were the people that pushed me one way or another.

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              , is that the majority of autistic people are quite capable of learning to operate differently, even if it doesn’t come naturally.

              Oh come on. You don’t want me talking to you? Don’t be sitting here positing that I’m autistic.

              It is wrong to record someone having sex without their consent. There’s no amount of learning to operate differently that’s going to change my mind on this and it shouldn’t.

              Why are you so insistent that I’m in the wrong on this? Who are you recording having sex without their knowledge?

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            The 2010s definitely had a lot of missteps and over-corrections when it came to pulling the country more left and it’s a shame. It’s led to statements from politicians like AOC saying things like “woke 1.0 is dead” and similar and that’s really understandable. There should be more grace and education in leftists spaces for sure.

            Then there’s some topics, like recording people having sex without consent, that I thought was a pretty agreed upon crossed line. I thought consent was something we all agreed should be respected more in our society and our country. So coming on people willing to play devil’s advocate for knowingly recording someone without their consent blew my mind with FishFace and other users here yesterday.

            So yeah, I clash with some people like FishFace that are willing to “both sides” topics that don’t need it because it’s really frustrating and offensive. Add in that I’ve got ADHD justice sensitivity and I can be real stubborn about topics like these.

            I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok shrug

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              I in no way defended you lol. I said you’re funny in a “I find their dogged determination to be wrong, amusing” sort of way.

              I might have been more charitable if we’d started off with the civility you just demonstrated, but that ship has sailed for the foreseeable future.

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          Neither is pushing that I’m the unreasonable one for having a staunchly held belief that no one has the right to record another having sex without their consent. But here you are editing your comments and still trying to argue with me without having me reply.

          If you’re embarrassed about trying to justify recording people having sex without their consent, then don’t engage in debates trying to defend it.

          I honest to god was going to leave the conversation there yesterday and then stumbled on your admission that you enjoy doing “both sides” arguments and sometimes it pisses people off. This is perfectly in line with the topic of this post.

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            I am not embarrassed, which is why I edited my comment to link to the thread after you brought it up without giving people the context.

            I just don’t want to talk to you about it any more, because you have nothing interesting to say about it, something which I made explicitly clear.

            Stop talking to me. If you want to bitch about me, my opinion or this conversation, find someone who wants to listen.