I don’t like spending this much time arguing against campism but they just keep talking at me.

  • Vreyan31@reddthat.com
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    1 day ago

    The conditions under which democracy works are well understood.

    You need a populace educated on how the society and government works at least in its broad strokes. That education should also instill a preference for democracy and describe the pitfalls of other systems.

    An independent media system to keep the voter base reasonably informed.

    Systems in place to prevent corruption.

    Every single one of these have been eroded over 1-2 generations by crony capitalism to enable wealth accumulation.

    I would not say that democracy in the US is a reasonable example of what democracy can look like. It is what happens when democracy is being deliberately sabotaged.

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      21 hours ago

      You also need a fully open and transparent government, any information being classified top secret or anything of the sort means you cannot have a democracy. No secrets can be allowed, ever. And really the only way to reasonably guarantee stuff like that is to make officials surrender all privacy related rights for life, just permanent publicly open insight into every aspect of your life, past, present, and future if you want to pursue office. I’d argue for attaching 24/7 live streamed cameras to them during their time in office as well. Obviously this would only currently work for rich countries with obscene military expenditures, like the US, but if the big guys were to do it then it would eventually be safe enough for the rest of them.

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        15 hours ago

        This seems extreme. I agree with more transparency of politicians, but I don’t see our current problems as stemming directly from the fact that our military has top secret information and an intelligence service.