• Apepollo11@lemmy.world
    255·
    2 年前

    This. There is evidence that a preacher called Jesus existed, was crucified, and was well-regarded enough to start a following that persisted even after his death.

    There isn’t, however, strong historical evidence for any of the magical parts of it.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
      5·
      2 年前

      I don’t think anyone is talking about the miracles when they refer to the historical Jesus.

      • almar_quigley@lemmy.world
        63·
        2 年前

        Every Christian takes an historical proof of Jesus as affirmation of the stories within the New Testament.

        • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
          43·
          2 年前

          Let’s not do the ‘every Christian’ thing. It’s worth remembering the US has a very ‘unique’ type of Christian.

      • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 年前

        Primary sources? No, but there are independent secondary sources by people with no skin in the game.

        Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus (circa 93–94 CE).

        Annals by Tacitus (circa 116 CE)

        The earliest Christian writings are also more about the teachings of a disruptive Jewish preacher who was then crucified, than they are about magic.

    • Caveman@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 年前

      I remember that one miracle closely resembles CPR. He put his hands on a body and brought it back to life.