Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?

I’ve pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it’s uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said “I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.”) We’re much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre…

I don’t know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I’d like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

    • Lauchs@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 hours ago

      Thanks, I’ll check it out!

      I just love the idea of non corpo social media but to get the network effects to scale we need the normies…!

  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 hours ago

    Honestly liberals probably fit into lemmy fine. I’ve seen my fair share.

    But your view of “normie” is heavily american centric. Your normies are probably far right in much of the world.

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    4 hours ago

    My impression is that Lemmy and the fediverse are a manifestation of the dissatisfaction with the current “normal” and “mainstream” social media platforms which are in decline due to hyper-capitalism. Is it no wonder the majority of its users’ ideology doesn’t align with what is “normal” and “mainstream”?

    That being said, this system is designed so that communities can exist independently from one-another. You’re always welcome to create your own. Otherwise, lemmy.world is just about as “normal” as you’re going to get out of Lemmy.

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      I dunno… I admittedly live in a fairly liberal city in Canada but in casual conversation with all sorts of folks (I play soccer on 4 teams so have a pretty wild cross section of friends) I’ve heard lots of grumbles. Heck, a couple songs ago a random Tidal playlist song was groussing about the algorithms.

      Even reddit had a bunch of grumbles and complaints and people looking for alternatives though I admittedly rarely look there anymore.

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    Your friend is confused. Leftism is inherently anti-capitalist so she can’t be a leftist unless she wants to ditch capitalism.

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      Most people in say America define Left Right on the current political spectrum, with Democrats on the left and Republicans on the Right.

      It’s like when people talk about work, we know they’re not actually talking about Force times Distance as defined by Newtonian physics, we understand they are talking about their job.

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          It’s the same in most countries. In Canada, we put the NDP on the Left, Liberals generally centre Left, Conservatives on the Right and the Bloc… well, they do Bloc things.

          Similar set up in most places. In common conversation, Left Right mean a standard political spectrum.

          If I said I went to work, have I redefined Newtonian physics?

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    Yes, I agree. Most people in the US are definitely not Marxist-Leninist, yet that’s a vibe i get here frequently.

    A more mainstream instance for normal people would be nice. Maybe there should be a non-profit organization behind it to back it up, pay the server bills, and such.

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    Lol @ “who volunteered for the Democrats”. Ain’t that a microcosm of every American politico (especially Democrats) ignorant of actual political theory.

    Imagine getting upset that someone accurately described “leftism” to you. I can only imagine it’s major cognitive dissonance after a lifetime of consuming mainstream political media calling liberalism “leftist” and pushing the overton window right.

    Lemmy.world already is the “normie” instance catering to liberalism. Your friend either ran into the more progressive parts of that instance or an actual leftist from a federated one. Either way, they got told an accurate take.

    Anyway, can we please stop all the attempts to make this place comfortable for conservative and right wing views in the name of “growth”? Have y’all actually been on a default subreddit in the last 15 years? Would that be worth it here?

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    I’m like your friend. F— leftists and f— conservatives. I’m a hard core liberal and y’all can suck my d—.

    I find lemm.ee is better than most but yeah as others have said, since everything is federated and the majority mass of users are hardcore leftists there’s no way to really avoid them. Just get used to the downvotes and easily offended snowflakes and instabans and hope that as more people leave the mainstream social medias for federated socials that these people will be watered down.

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    Lemmy.world is considered the “normie” instance. Even if you manage to find another instance, it won’t matter that much anyway since most interactions are from federated users. The only way to avoid leftist views on Lemmy is to avoid politics completely (which isn’t viable).

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        If you block political words and Linux this place is a ghost town…

        … Except for LotR memes of course.

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    The worst enemy of a leftie are other slightly different lefties lol

    The good think of federation is that you can mute/block morons. And because there’s no “algorithm” you are not shown content that the server thinks you are interested. So you have to be proactive and follow what you want to see, and mute the ones you dislike.

    Also, you can have multiple accounts for multiple purposes. It’s sane not to discuss politics with other people from other cultures all day, so you can have a dedicated account for that. And other account to have fun in a sane way, which includes muting politics.

    In the case of this girl, she was american like the majority of lemmings I believe. But for people from the other hemisphere, the cultural shock may be even worse. My advice for those is always: Just mute. Don’t argue and don’t feed trolls. Nobody is gonna change opinions anyways.

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      I feel like she wasn’t told to use the block feature freely and deliberately. The block feature is your friend.

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    So if you can’t handle that there are other opinions, you either need to find the communities which support your opinions or go back to corporate internet, which filters out uncomfortable stuff for you.

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      Corporate internet doesn’t even filter out “uncomfortable” shit for people. They have a vested interest in keeping people engaged whether it’s through love or hate.

      This is a misconception I see all the time. Reddit et al try their hardest to make browsing feel like a roller coaster to keep up engagement.

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    Fediverse is anticapitalism at its core, it’s a way to escape ads and money influencing algorithims and what can be said. If you don’t like power to the people, join truth.social or some other unfederated instance.

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    "I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism?

    Based

    Also shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between leftist and left wing from someone but this is America dammit it’s the culture

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    Lemmy is different from Reddit in one important way.

    Reddit is a product. You install the app, you look at the ads, the mods and admins curate an endless feed of cartoons and safe ragebait and awwwunexpectedsmiles.

    Lemmy is an environment. If you’re passive, then any random thing may happen to you. So you have to be proactive in this environment.

    • You could subscribe to communities that are non-politics/news, non-meme, non-tech, and browse these “subscribed” communities.
    • You could use blocklists, as described elsewhere in this post.
    • You could find an instance that does some of this work for you, by defederating and blocking certain types of opinions and behaviors. This seems to be what you want, and many people have provided suggestions.

    These are all ok. But the one defining characteristic of Lemmy is that it is not just another product.

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    Why not just join non-political communities and focus on the content that they enjoy. If people are nervous about meeting assholes on the internet perhaps they should stick to cable tv or netflix.

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      I think one of the issues is “normies” do not want to learn the lore like:

      “don’t bother with anyone with lemmygrad after their name”

      “Block these communities on day one”

      “Be sure to pick an instance that you researched aligns with your moderation tolerances”

      If you have to do setup stuff, many folks are already out. Someone may see that as a feature, but I don’t see Lemmy growing much more with that “feature”.

      So if you’re happy with the size of things, mission accomplished. If you want to discuss “how to grow Lemmy” well, the above topics need to be addressed.