• pageflight@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Wait what? Rapid policy change in response to gun violence?

    Good job Australia Austria!

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        Beethoven being born in Germany and Hitler being born in Austria was one of those trivia facts I learned as a 12 year old — or thereabouts; I forget how old I was — that made me question everything. I was obviously, by definition, uneducated at that age but I had just sort of lumped “classical music=Vienna” and “Hitler=Germany.”

        It’s obviously an odd fact to blow a kid’s mind and there were many more such moments to come but, for some reason, that factoid was a very effective one on my journey to realizing I didn’t know shit. (A journey I’m still on, even on things I have a degree in or worked on. Nothing teaches you how much you don’t know like learning enough to realize you haven’t even scratched the surface.)

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          Technically speaking Beethoven was born in Austria. Austrian Netherlands that is (current day Belgium), owned by the Habsburgs.

          Or even more generally, he was born in the Holy Roman Empire of Germanic Nations (today Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, parts of France, parts of Poland, Austria, Czechia, Germany) and died in the Austrian Empire.

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      2 days ago

      America currently going: “la la la la la” while turning its back to the problem.

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      Wow kneejerk pseudo-science enshrined into law because one person out of 10,000,000 used a gun to kill someone. Do you think if he had used a car instead you’d see a similar response? why or why not?

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        i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

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          i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

          Yikes. It took you multiple paragraphs before you understood how goddamn reactionary the Austrian response is. And while you understand it’s wrong, you refuse to accept it. Liberal to the core. Please do not vote again for everyone’s sake.

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        Probably the most goddamn idiotic take I’ve fucking seen. And what makes this even funnier is your smug attitude.

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          Honestly just seems like a run-of-the-mill US red state take. “Muh gunz” is where it stops for them, fuck kids dying, we need more guns. If everyone carried an assault rifle the world would be at peace because there would be a good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun or something like that. They call it culture as far as I understand.

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        Cars are tools for transportation that, unfortunately, sometimes result in death.

        Firearms (specifically handguns and AR-type long guns) are machines specifically designed to kill humans. That’s it.

        If you can’t understand the difference, I don’t know what to tell you.

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            Also, cars are dangerous AF. Tens of thousands of people die a year because of them. Hence why we have licenses and maintenance rules and an unbelievably extensive road system with clear signals and lights.

            And despite all these rules, the number of car deaths is much greater then any other cause of death. It’s not a lack of rules that are the problem with cars (nor guns).

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        Ooh, ooh! Pick me! It’s because transportation is infinitely more societally useful than punching imprecise holes in things in one of the most dangerous ways accessible to most individuals! There are lots of reasons to ban or limit the use of cars in various public places, but those types of attacks are a reason to install and use bollards.

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          Agreed, so we should be building trains which are way faster, safer and environmentally friendly then cars if we actually care about saving lives.

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              Which is a completely irrelevant point here

              So if the point isn’t to save lives, what is the point?

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                The school shooting. Reading the article will help answer these types of questions. I’ll mute you for a while to give you time.

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        You’re totally right, and this is supported the data! The USA has the least restrictive gun laws of any major developed country but has similar rates of gun violence as all other developed…oh wait, never mind, the USA has by far the highest gun violence rates of any major developed nation.

        Our per capita rate of gun violence is comparable to countries like Somalia, Iraq, and Haiti.

        And also, car deaths is a huge issue too, and we should restrict car ownership and encourage mass transit and related infrastructure. Making more of our cities pedestrian-only locations protected by bollards, would also make people even safer from both accidental and intentional car deaths.

        It’s also way better for the environment and thus, people’s long term health, leading to even higher life spans and better happiness.

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          And get safer cars. The US has some kind of car arms race going on where you need a super large heavy car to be safe because the roads are full of big heavy cars… Resulting in much more deadly crashes for everyone. Besides most states driving test is a joke.

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            Cars are much safer than they used to be.

            Over the shoulder seat belts, ABS, airbags, crumple zones, stability control, etc all help prevent accidents and he’ll you walk away from any that still happen.

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              They are safe for car passengers, and a nightmare for everyone else on the street. High hoods with bad sight for drivers and awful impact profile for pedestrians, heavy cars which make low speed collisions much more deadly for everyone not protected by 3 tons of steel. Safety should be for everyone, not only car passengers.

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          Kinda yes but no? There’s minimum standards for gun control in the EU and thus the “right to bear arms” countries (Austria, Czechia, Poland, Baltic states, Finland) regularly have work cut out for them when the framework gets tightened while the “may issue” and “don’t issue” countries are perpetually in overcompliance.