• 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@lemmy.zip
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    And Nintendo JP says that “Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 cannot be remotely located, their users remotely identified nor disabled over the Internet” (tweet in Japanese warning people against accidentally losing or getting their consoles stolen over summer vacation)

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    But I bet it is more like “Nintendo won’t disable them remotely even if people report ones stolen to them with serial numbers and police reports”, but they’ll happily do so if they caught you using the console in an unapproved manner in their eyes.

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    Just don’t buy one. Problem solved. If you get yours bricked it’s your fault for being a sucker and letting companies run all over you. You can survive without having a Switch 2.

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      Wrong, advocate for pro-consumer laws. Today it’s a switch, tomorrow its a thing you use. And on that post there will be another snide comment on how idiot customers didn’t read the 50 page EULA.

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        Why not doing both? Supporting more independent platforms and advocating for pro-consumer laws

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    Nintendo apologists are already denying the undeniable

    “It’s not bricked, because you can still turn it on and browse the settings app, see the available WiFi networks in your area and other fun options like that. You just can’t play game key cards or all the games that require a day one patch, but except that, it’s definitely not bricked”

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      Been seeing some of that as well, so I looked it up myself. The actual text of the EULA states:

      "You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part.”

      That’s a brick. They haven’t actually done it to anyone yet, but they’ve reserved their rights.

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      Yeah “bricked” means it’s as useful as a brick. If this is accurate, you can still use all the offline features, which is less bad than it’s previously been described.

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      This whole practice, among other things, is so shitty that I decided to not get a Switch 2, having had every Nintendo console since the NES.

      But it’s important to make the distinction between disabling and bricking. It may seem like a technicality, but that’s the kind of thing that’ll get a lawsuit dismissed. Not that I have any faith in that process anyway.

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      People like that are the reason these fucking corporations are so entitled. The problem is not governments or legislations, the problem is us.

      Until we decide that we will not finance companies that pull bullshit like this, no amount of legislation will make them stop.

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      They are denying you access to the service rather than your hardware. I prefer how Nintendo goes about it (locking hacked device) compared to Valve or Sony where your entire game library gets locked. As someone with a banned Switch I think that’s fair, I can pirate things on it anyway. Nobody said piracy has to be easy and I enjoy a bit of cat and mouse.

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          No, you just get permabanned from playing on VAC-enabled servers if you get caught cheating on one. So first of all, don’t cheat on mulltiplayer games. But if you do cheat, you can still play on servers that aren’t VAC-enabled, with all the other cheaters.

          But it’s not really much of a issue for most people who cheat anyway, because it has no effect for games that don’t use VAC.

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          Say you get VAC banned, your entire library can’t play VAC multiplayer games. If you hacked in Splatoon you buy a new Switch but your library is retained.

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            There’s nuance that you’re not including. VAC and game bans are dependent on a per game basis, and don’t apply to ALL multi-player servers, just “VAC secured servers” (which makes sense if you got banned by Valve Anti-Cheat), with the sole exception being Valve games that utilize the same underlying engine for their multi-player (CS:Source and TF2, GoldSrc games, so on…) with the same restrictions.

            You can still play VAC and other anti-cheat supported multi-player with games not related to your ban, but you will still have VAC bans on record on your profile, which people may cite to kick you.

            All of this (apart from the social stigma) is plainly documented on Steam Support:

            https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74

            https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29

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            You can still play any multiplayer game, you just can’t play on VAC-enabled servers anymore. The best way to prevent being VAC banned is don’t cheat on multiplayer games. If you do, you deserve having your account VAC banned.

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              You can still play your Switch games online after getting banned using LDN bridges. The best way to avoid getting banned from a Nintendo service is not to hack your device.

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                There’s a big difference between pirating a game and cheating on a multiplayer game, and if you can’t tell the difference, then you’re definitely a liberal politically.

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                  From Nintendo’s point of view hacked device is a hacked device. Whether you use it to pirate or hack in multiplayer, they don’t really care, you’re not supposed to do either and they take that device off their network. I usually pay for games because second hand market exists but I also won’t condemn piracy because some can’t afford even that. It’s the expectation that a company like Nintendo has to take it under the guise of consumer protection that I find funny, bad political takes too.

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                  Welcome to the internet young man! Just so you know, you need your parents’ permission to log on while under the age of 13. Until then have fun and stay safe!

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    Just buy Steam Deck or Legion Go S with SteamOS preinstalled. It’s much better alternative.

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    Freedom of enterprise is a scam and always has been.

    For the bourgeoisie, freedom of the press meant freedom for the rich to publish and for the capitalists to control the newspapers, a practice which in all countries, including even the freest, produced a corrupt press.

    Lenin was already saying this in the context of the press in 1917 https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/nov/04.htm

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    What if an EU citizen brings a EU-bought Switch 2 to States? This is such a mess and anti-consumer move.

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        No. That EU-citizen is fully protected by EU consumer laws. Has nothing to do with where that citizen make use of their product.

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          The person is protected, not the device. While the device is outside of the EU they can brick it. At least that’s how Apple does it

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            Apple would lose such a case in an instant. EU consumer protections applies to the consumer for products bought from a seller within the EU. The laws do not care the slightest whether you’re using your devices on vacation or not.

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          Not true. For example, an EU resident (citizen is the wrong group) purchasing in the US is not covered by EU law.

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            I don’t know any of the law for sure, but isn’t that a different argument entirely?

            In one case, an EU resident buys a product in the EU, decides to use it while in the US for a week/month whatever. The argument is that he’s protected.

            You’re saying that’s not true, because if he buys it in the USA, then he’s not protected.

            But, that wasn’t the argument, was it? It’s different?

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    Incomming the “oh the nobodies are talking” and “sorry can’t hear you over the moon landing”

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      I imagine the important thing is which region your device is locked to. So instead, you would probably need to purchase one from somebody in Europe, and have it shipped to the US.

      That’s if you absolutely have to have a Switch 2.