Nintendo apologists are already denying the undeniable
“It’s not bricked, because you can still turn it on and browse the settings app, see the available WiFi networks in your area and other fun options like that. You just can’t play game key cards or all the games that require a day one patch, but except that, it’s definitely not bricked”
This whole practice, among other things, is so shitty that I decided to not get a Switch 2, having had every Nintendo console since the NES.
But it’s important to make the distinction between disabling and bricking. It may seem like a technicality, but that’s the kind of thing that’ll get a lawsuit dismissed. Not that I have any faith in that process anyway.
Been seeing some of that as well, so I looked it up myself. The actual text of the EULA states:
"You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part.”
That’s a brick. They haven’t actually done it to anyone yet, but they’ve reserved their rights.
Yeah “bricked” means it’s as useful as a brick. If this is accurate, you can still use all the offline features, which is less bad than it’s previously been described.
They are denying you access to the service rather than your hardware. I prefer how Nintendo goes about it (locking hacked device) compared to Valve or Sony where your entire game library gets locked. As someone with a banned Switch I think that’s fair, I can pirate things on it anyway. Nobody said piracy has to be easy and I enjoy a bit of cat and mouse.
No, you just get permabanned from playing on VAC-enabled servers if you get caught cheating on one. So first of all, don’t cheat on mulltiplayer games. But if you do cheat, you can still play on servers that aren’t VAC-enabled, with all the other cheaters.
But it’s not really much of a issue for most people who cheat anyway, because it has no effect for games that don’t use VAC.
Say you get VAC banned, your entire library can’t play VAC multiplayer games. If you hacked in Splatoon you buy a new Switch but your library is retained.
There’s nuance that you’re not including. VAC and game bans are dependent on a per game basis, and don’t apply to ALL multi-player servers, just “VAC secured servers” (which makes sense if you got banned by Valve Anti-Cheat), with the sole exception being Valve games that utilize the same underlying engine for their multi-player (CS:Source and TF2, GoldSrc games, so on…) with the same restrictions.
You can still play VAC and other anti-cheat supported multi-player with games not related to your ban, but you will still have VAC bans on record on your profile, which people may cite to kick you.
All of this (apart from the social stigma) is plainly documented on Steam Support:
You can still play any multiplayer game, you just can’t play on VAC-enabled servers anymore. The best way to prevent being VAC banned is don’t cheat on multiplayer games. If you do, you deserve having your account VAC banned.
You can still play your Switch games online after getting banned using LDN bridges. The best way to avoid getting banned from a Nintendo service is not to hack your device.
There’s a big difference between pirating a game and cheating on a multiplayer game, and if you can’t tell the difference, then you’re definitely a liberal politically.
From Nintendo’s point of view hacked device is a hacked device. Whether you use it to pirate or hack in multiplayer, they don’t really care, you’re not supposed to do either and they take that device off their network. I usually pay for games because second hand market exists but I also won’t condemn piracy because some can’t afford even that. It’s the expectation that a company like Nintendo has to take it under the guise of consumer protection that I find funny, bad political takes too.
Welcome to the internet young man! Just so you know, you need your parents’ permission to log on while under the age of 13. Until then have fun and stay safe!
Nintendo apologists are already denying the undeniable
“It’s not bricked, because you can still turn it on and browse the settings app, see the available WiFi networks in your area and other fun options like that. You just can’t play game key cards or all the games that require a day one patch, but except that, it’s definitely not bricked”
This whole practice, among other things, is so shitty that I decided to not get a Switch 2, having had every Nintendo console since the NES.
But it’s important to make the distinction between disabling and bricking. It may seem like a technicality, but that’s the kind of thing that’ll get a lawsuit dismissed. Not that I have any faith in that process anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_video_game_consoles
Almost every console by nintendo. Game & Watch and Color TV-Game only consolebefore NES.
I’m done with Nintendo and all their IPs. Brain surgery with a backhoe, and all that.
Been seeing some of that as well, so I looked it up myself. The actual text of the EULA states:
That’s a brick. They haven’t actually done it to anyone yet, but they’ve reserved their rights.
Yeah “bricked” means it’s as useful as a brick. If this is accurate, you can still use all the offline features, which is less bad than it’s previously been described.
“But can a brick be used as a shitty book light?”
They are denying you access to the service rather than your hardware. I prefer how Nintendo goes about it (locking hacked device) compared to Valve or Sony where your entire game library gets locked. As someone with a banned Switch I think that’s fair, I can pirate things on it anyway. Nobody said piracy has to be easy and I enjoy a bit of cat and mouse.
Valve locks game libraries?
No, you just get permabanned from playing on VAC-enabled servers if you get caught cheating on one. So first of all, don’t cheat on mulltiplayer games. But if you do cheat, you can still play on servers that aren’t VAC-enabled, with all the other cheaters.
But it’s not really much of a issue for most people who cheat anyway, because it has no effect for games that don’t use VAC.
Say you get VAC banned, your entire library can’t play VAC multiplayer games. If you hacked in Splatoon you buy a new Switch but your library is retained.
There’s nuance that you’re not including. VAC and game bans are dependent on a per game basis, and don’t apply to ALL multi-player servers, just “VAC secured servers” (which makes sense if you got banned by Valve Anti-Cheat), with the sole exception being Valve games that utilize the same underlying engine for their multi-player (CS:Source and TF2, GoldSrc games, so on…) with the same restrictions.
You can still play VAC and other anti-cheat supported multi-player with games not related to your ban, but you will still have VAC bans on record on your profile, which people may cite to kick you.
All of this (apart from the social stigma) is plainly documented on Steam Support:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29
You can still play any multiplayer game, you just can’t play on VAC-enabled servers anymore. The best way to prevent being VAC banned is don’t cheat on multiplayer games. If you do, you deserve having your account VAC banned.
You can still play your Switch games online after getting banned using LDN bridges. The best way to avoid getting banned from a Nintendo service is not to hack your device.
There’s a big difference between pirating a game and cheating on a multiplayer game, and if you can’t tell the difference, then you’re definitely a liberal politically.
From Nintendo’s point of view hacked device is a hacked device. Whether you use it to pirate or hack in multiplayer, they don’t really care, you’re not supposed to do either and they take that device off their network. I usually pay for games because second hand market exists but I also won’t condemn piracy because some can’t afford even that. It’s the expectation that a company like Nintendo has to take it under the guise of consumer protection that I find funny, bad political takes too.
Welcome to the internet young man! Just so you know, you need your parents’ permission to log on while under the age of 13. Until then have fun and stay safe!
People like that are the reason these fucking corporations are so entitled. The problem is not governments or legislations, the problem is us.
Until we decide that we will not finance companies that pull bullshit like this, no amount of legislation will make them stop.
Except in Europe.
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