I think there’s a pretty good case to be made that NATO would be effectively dissolved if the United States attacked Greenland.
the attack would likely be tolerated by the other NATO members, and so the agreement would no longer have meaning.
Not sure where you get the feeling that the attack would be tolerated by the EU or Canada. What does tolerated mean to you?
Speaking as a Canadian and repeating a comment from a few days ago that was in a different context.
If Trump/US invaded Greenland.
Pollievre (leader of Conservative party) - “yes Daddy invade them!”
Carney (leader of Liberal party & Canadian Government currently) - “Canada is alarmed by these actions and will continue to work collaboratively with its international partners to find a solution.”
We all know the Liberal response is the better one but it still means absolutely jack shit.
I happen to think you’re wrong. It would be political suicide. Carney has been working feverishly to diversify, and her would recognize that the majority of Canadians are done with the US. We either act decisively at Greenland, or we are finished. And if the people decide on that policy, it doesn’t really matter what the PM wants to do.
I’m ready to sacrifice, because this is existential for us.
I can imagine EU countries and Canada sending troops as a deterrent, in the sense of “Ronald McDonald wouldn’t be crazy enough to attack allied troops” but if they did end up attacking, I doubt Canada and the EU would let it evolve into actual conflict.
They’d retract, let Greenland be lost, and fundamentally change their relationship with the US. Then Greenland would officially be treated as a grey zone that the UN should someday try to solve or something.
Are you Canadian?
I was born in Neptune, the icy blue overlooker of the emptiness of space.
Not surprising, as you clearly know nothing about the geopolitical situation or the stakeholders.
Such is the point. There’s a reason Donnie started his first term so aggressively picking fights with Canada and Norway. Fulfilling Putin’s wish.
Also diverts attention from Ukraine.
thats PUTIN’s biggest wetdream, plus its probably vladmir telling him now is the time.
Agree with the title but downvote for unreliable source website. Here’s the real article they copy pasted from Reuters.
Changed article to Reuters, thanks for stating that.
If we let Trump take Greenland, we may as well let hi take our kids now.
This was originally reported by Reuters as someone already said. We should add that The South China Morning Post is a Chinese state-controlled propaganda medium owned by Alibaba Group and based in Hong Kong.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I hope you also point out in other threads that US media is an oligarch controlled propaganda medium serving the interests of oligarchs.
I changed the link to the Reuters article.
But thanks for additional context regarding the other source.
Maybe you should add that Reuters is a British bourgeois-controlled propaganda medium owned by the 3rd Baron Thomson of Fleet, a Canadian and British media magnate.
/s and just jocking
As of January 2025, Thomson is the richest person in Canada and 22nd richest in the world, with an estimated net worth of $68.6 billion USD.[8]
Definitely a man of upstanding character…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thomson,_3rd_Baron_Thomson_of_Fleet
But the US is NATO. 🤭
The US needs Greenland to defend it from Russia and China.
Greenland is in NATO, allowing the US to defend it from Russia and China.
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Also the US already has a military base in Greenland and has for many decades. In fact, they used to have dozen or so during the Cold War. And because the area is apparently such vital importance to the defence of the US, they currently have… 150 soldiers stationed there.
In the one base they have kept.Very, very important location. Vital for defence.
Obviously it’s needed to refuel the Nuclear Subs on their way to Russian waters.
Are you suggesting that when the President says it’s vital for national security that he’s being less than truthful?
Is there oil or rare earth metals?
Yup, mostly rare earth metals, but in protected areas that require lots of permitting and small operations. That’s why the US wants in, with it’s industry standards of no standards for industries. Think of all the money his friends stand to make here guys, cmon.
Yes. Invasion is not necessary to extract them. Money is.
In June, the US Export-Import Bank offered a $120 million loan to advance the development of the $290 million Tanbreez rare earth project in Southern Greenland. That same month, Denmark’s Export and Investment Fund (EIFO) increased its shareholding in Canada’s Amaroq Minerals, owner of a portfolio of critical minerals properties in Southern Greenland
In January, GreenRoc Strategic Materials, a developer focused on graphite in Greenland, announced that EIFO had expressed an interest in providing funding for its Amitsoq graphite project in Southern Greenland. The Amitsoq project was subsequently designated as an EU strategic project, granting access to funding and support from EU Member States and financial institutions.
Hammeken-Holm welcomed these developments, adding that foreign investment is critical for overcoming Greenland’s significant environmental and logistical challenges. SOURCE
Yes. Invasion is not necessary to extract them. Money is
An Australian company was all set to do that but was booted out of Greenland (mining licence revoked) by thier then newly elected Government.
Trunp would have to cease it and remove the Government.
Rear Earths aren’t rare and are quite common, the issue is they are toxic to mine and refine. Australian company, Lynas has a mine in Western Australia and was originally refused permission to refine in Australia becase the waste is so toxic (gong back deacades now), so they built a refinery in Malaysia, this was one of the only non Chinese refineries on the planet.
Malaysia has since had enough of thatt shit and said thay woukd close the refinery down because of the toxic pollition. So now they will mine in Western Australia, do the most toxic refining there and ship to Malaysia the partially refined product to finish The Australiam Government has now granted them a super secret licence to do the most toxic bit of refining there and use up valuable water in the desert.
Not just money, but jurisdiction. They have a huge range of options for building military bases with few permissions required, but a lot of that “cheddar” they would want to extract is under development restrictions.
TL;DR - a legitimate democracy is in the way of oligarch profits once again
Right?
You have to wonder if leaders live in a parallel world, disconnected from ours.
Do we need to explain to them that it’s over? Is it denial?
It’s getting tiring watching these things happen, knowing what’s going to happen, have it happen then get ‘but we never anticipated this’. Yeah fuckin righto sunshine.
I suspect the rest of NATO is giving the US as much chance as it needs to disrupt Trump.
I personally doubt that Greenland will be tolerated by the rest of the world, and certainly Canada should overwhelmingly sanction the US if not worse in the event Greenland is occupied by the US… it is existential for the rest of the world and I think this is obvious. But why interrupt the citizenry and the legal machinations in the US right now?
I also think that the EU and Canada should start alliance discussions with China if Greenland happens.
Yes, so it should be clear as day to anyone ordered to attack Greenland that they should refuse.
“As part of the Danish commonwealth, Greenland is a member of NATO and the defence of Greenland must therefore be through NATO,” the government said.
They’re not saying that Greenland should be defended by NATO against the US, they’re saying Greenland should be defended by NATO as opposed to being occupied by and defended by only the US.
The US is in NATO.
Not for long.
wrong country but total Star Blazers vibe
NATO ain’t gonna do shit lmao. It was always a fake-ass fantasy designed to stop communism. That’s it.
NATO likely will be de facto dissolved instantly upon US occupation.
The EU, Canada, Australia and other allies will retaliate. Imagine the hubris of thinking otherwise. And I would not be surprised to see alliances shifting to China.
US had a golden ticket granted to them by the rest of the world. How irretrievably stupid, selfish and short sighted do you have to be to throw that all away… And for a bloated conman who fucks kids? They deserve to crash.
Someone should tell Putin that NATO is fake so he can stop feeding people into the Ukrainian meat grinder.
NATO gonna save Ukraine any day now 🤣
A) Ukraine is not part of NATO.
B) NATO countries are providing Ukraine with tons of military hardware, without which it is arguable whether Ukraine would have survived this long.
C) The point is that Putin is using NATO as an excuse to go after Ukraine, since NATO is “threatening Russia” and Ukraine joining NATO would put a threatening force on Russia’s doorstep.
It’s not really an excuse, Ukraine joining NATO would be terrible for Russia. They’re doing what they gotta do for themselves. You’d know a thing or two about that as an American right?
Wait, you just said NATO was fake-ass and would do nothing. Why would Ukraine joining NATO be terrible for Russia if NATO is so fake-ass and worthless?
Also, just because I’m an American doesn’t mean I believe in the things my government does. Trying to leave NATO and attacking random countries, like Trump is doing now, is not something I think is right.
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They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Excerpt from Sartre.
Originally about anti-semites, fits fascists too. For some reason I thought about this when reading your comment chain.
Good comeback that totally addresses and destroys the original point 🤣
Russia gonna finish off Ukraine any day now 🤣
I mean, Russia is pretty clearly winning this war, not that I care either way.
I don’t like NATO.
However, Greenland doesn’t deserve an American occupation. So this would be a NATO intervention that I would support.
So you don’t like us, but you want us to fight and die for you ? How about fuck you, I’m taking care of my own.
OP is not Greenland. Your comment makes no sense.
you don’t like us
Are you US American? It seems like you are equating NATO to the USA. Which makes about as much sense as saying that the Internet is American.
Umm actually it is an American invention just like peanut butter is. It is just nobody profits off of the protocols that make the internet work.
How about fuck you, I’m taking care of my own.
I mean that’s cool too as NATO would fracture either way.
So it’s a win-win for me, hate to see the Greenlanders suffer though.
hate to see the Greenlanders suffer though.
I doubt that.
edit: .ml, I should have known better, you are a waste of oxygen lol.
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I suppose you must be stressed out today, I can only hope your day becomes better.
Your first statement was “I don’t like NATO”. I think the person responding is assuming you’re a US citizen, and so a member of the only country to call the rest of NATO to its aid, despite being the most powerful.
